[3.2] AVP - Abyssal Volatile Poet || Now with MF option

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Eridoe wrote:

Many thanks!

- There's something wrong in your links, you are using PCoC in the Volatile Dead wand and Concentrated effect in the Unearth one. That's obviously a mistake, but costs you a lot of damage.

- Your jewels are all pretty good, they can obviously be improved but that's not a priority. Your damage also seems pretty good, you should be clearing everything with no problems.

- There's something funny going on. If your items only have 1 abyssal socket, you can still put 3 normal sockets/link on them, but for some reason you are not doing it. That's not game-changing, but you could use 3 more gems, like another support gem in your helm, herald of ice (if you want more damage) or other stuff.

- Try to put your "best jewels" in the belt, since they get buffed up.

- You are missing your last 2 ascendency points, this is bad at your level. Very bad. Bad. Very. With this build you can easily kill Uber lab at level 70 or so, just go there and kill that Izaro. Having those last 2 points it's a big damage and survivability (ailment immunity) buff.

- The ring with WM is ok, not great, but good enough to use it for now. The other ring gives you no life whatsoever and the amulet also has too little life. Try to get a ring with at least 65/70 life and the amulet with at least 75/80 life.

- I do not think you actually need that life flask, a defensive flask would be better. Good options are Granite, Basalt and Stibnite. This way you can also use it as the Bleed removal flask, which works better on utility flasks (once your life is full, the life flask doesn't grant anti-bleed).

- Your tree is ok, I would just change the routing in the Templar starting area, going through the int nodes instead. You save 3 points that can be invested in better things (like jewel sockets).

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Please, if you want to use the CoC setup, do NOT place Bodyswap in the same Pen that holds Unearth. Don't. Never.

why is this?

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k0tz wrote:

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Please, if you want to use the CoC setup, do NOT place Bodyswap in the same Pen that holds Unearth. Don't. Never.

why is this?

Because you do not generate enough corpses to proc it. If there are already corpses on the ground from dead monsters it's ok, otherwise you just start missing skill procs.
It's already by itself a "risky" setup, since you generate enough corpses to proc VD only once every 2 attacks (even if it's the only gem in that wand).

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lallalaus wrote:

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k0tz wrote:

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Please, if you want to use the CoC setup, do NOT place Bodyswap in the same Pen that holds Unearth. Don't. Never.

why is this?

Because you do not generate enough corpses to proc it. If there are already corpses on the ground from dead monsters it's ok, otherwise you just start missing skill procs.
It's already by itself a "risky" setup, since you generate enough corpses to proc VD only once every 2 attacks (even if it's the only gem in that wand).

If you don't have the hat enchant it is fine, though.

So a thing i was wondering. Compared to a "normal" VD build. Are we losing out on something besides a movement skill when using a poet pen version? for example Ghazzys non PP version vs a version like this. Is this way of doing VD the superior way or a more "gimmicky" way?

Hey, I've been using this build for a while now and completed most of the atlas but i'm having issues with the guardians/shaper. I feel like i'm lacking DPS but maybe i'm just bad and it's only my fault for not playing those fights well enough ...

If someone could have look, here's my build: https://pastebin.com/9cA5mQx8

I feel like the lack of damage comes from the jewels, because i'm having trouble finding good ones. Is it the issue ? What else could I improve on to get more dps ?

Thanks in advance for any input :)

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famulor wrote:

So a thing i was wondering. Compared to a "normal" VD build. Are we losing out on something besides a movement skill when using a poet pen version? for example Ghazzys non PP version vs a version like this. Is this way of doing VD the superior way or a more "gimmicky" way?

I do not have much experience of VD without the Poet's Pen setup, I just used it few levels while levelling. I honestly believe this kind of setup is vastly superior to the self cast option in any possible way. They playstyle is way smother, your damage potential is probably higher (I'm not 100% sure on this, since I haven't checked every possible guide, but it's waaaay higher than the Ghazzy's version) and you have more survivability. Keep in mind that it can be more expensive though.

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peioe wrote:

Hey, I've been using this build for a while now and completed most of the atlas but i'm having issues with the guardians/shaper. I feel like i'm lacking DPS but maybe i'm just bad and it's only my fault for not playing those fights well enough ...

If someone could have look, here's my build: https://pastebin.com/9cA5mQx8

I feel like the lack of damage comes from the jewels, because i'm having trouble finding good ones. Is it the issue ? What else could I improve on to get more dps ?

Thanks in advance for any input :)

Full buffed you have something like 60k avg hit on VD, which is very good; you should have no damage problem against any boss. It could be a mechanic problem though, if you haven't played those fights many times you might find them harder than they actually are. Unluckily there's not much we can do about it, you just need to try them few times understanding what's going on, when you need to dodge stuff and when you can attack safely. If this is the case, I suggest you to also check some gameplay videos of those fights (I've updated the full run of every guardian).
Your setup is also very good, you can defnitely get better jewels in the long term, but I do not think that's actually going to help you in the end. You probably just need more practice.
Just 3 things you need to check:
- You are taking a DEX point in the Intuitive Leap area that you should not take (the one leading to the life nodes), which cuol be used to take that last life passive.
- Full buffed you have 4.05 aps, which is over the cap. It's even worst since there's still the bug, so you need to reduce it to something like 3.80, otherwise you are losing dps.
- You are using a Wise Oak flask, but as far as I can see you resistances are not all equal. This is already bad by itself, it's already worst 'cause your highest one is the cold resistance. So you are literally gaining nothing from that flask.

The resistances are actually equal but I forgot to disable purity of ice which i don't use. They're all equal without it :)

Without that big DEX point I don't have enough dex for Frenzy, not sure where i'm missing dex :/

Thanks for the answer, that's pretty much what I suspected. Just a noob :p

Where can I see the aps ? I'm not even sure :/ edit: OK found it it's frenzy's aps. Thanks I was confused.

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peioe wrote:

The resistances are actually equal but I forgot to disable purity of ice which i don't use. They're all equal without it :)

Oh lol.. I haven't noticed it, my bad then.

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Without that big DEX point I don't have enough dex for Frenzy, not sure where i'm missing dex :/

Thanks for the answer, that's pretty much what I suspected. Just a noob :p

Where can I see the aps ? I'm not even sure :/

The "problem" is that you are using a 20/20 frenzy, while in reality you could just use a 1/20 one. You are just making your own life harder this way. I suggest you to either buy a lvl 1 frenzy or downgrade your one (don't remmeber if the recipe is with a scouring or a regret orb to reset it to level 1), this way you can take away that 30dex node.
I was talking about the other dex point though, the one next to your Intuitive Leap, that's connecting the life nodes (which obviously do not need to be connected).

To see the aps you just select Frenzy as the skill you want to check in PoB and it shows its avg hit, aps, dps etc. Keep you mind you want to consider every buff up.

Edit: Oh and you can also use some Blessed orbs on your amulet to upgrade the implicit dex roll, which goes up to 30.

Thanks for all the info :) I'm going to fix those things and then L2P :D

Edit: thanks for the amu tip, I got 30 on the first try :D