[3.3 Raider] Muirey's 2h Freezing Cyclone - Raider Edition!

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zKronos wrote:

Guys..I'm reading the last two pages of comments and I'm convinced I'm doing something wrong. I seen you guys talking about 70k and 100k dps in h/o..Mines at 27k lol. I can kill trash mobs so fast. Up to T12 with 2 people I can clear trash mobs and rares/elites. I know my life is still low, 4k, I have a 6 socket belly I'm trying to link. But my 27k dps in h/o compared to your 100k.. Wtf am I doing wrong. I would appreciate some help.

I'm loving the build btw.
Cheers.

Thanks, glad you're enjoying it! Let's see what's going on.

Gear and links all look fine but when I was mentioning dps numbers I was speaking of a few different things.

1) My slayer
2) Using Ele focus or Maim instead of Hypothermia.

Hypo won't show in hideout so your tooltip will be lower but Hypo is higher dmg if target is chilled than Maim. Ele focus + Conc effect is the ego stroking leaned back in your chair 250k tooltip dps mode.

As for passive tree I would make just a few changes..

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You need some kind of bleed chance for kondo's so picking up razors edge would boost your dps while on bosses nicely. If you have culling in totem setup then you can wait to get Executioner for later. Most t15 and lower bosses won't be low life but greater than 10% for culling long enough for it to matter. Other nodes will serve you better for now.

There a reason you decided to head up towards Devotion instead of toward Constitution as the passive tree suggests?

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I seen that you updated the thread with two new skill trees a few days ago, full life and full dps. Right now I feel like I do a lot of damage and my life is only 4k. I decided to start following your new full life tree and since I was only about 5 points from Devotion I decided to head there to get the life faster than going to Constitution.

If you mean the ones under "3.1 End tree variations" they've been there the whole time. ;)

Yeah if you want as much life as possible that'd be the way to go but those are geared towards Disfavour/Axe not Kondo/Sword so just keep that in mind.

What about berserker? It should do even more damage and the leech isnt much problem when you chill freeze mobs. Might be hard for bosses. Any thoughts?

Would be fine for Berserker as well. Any of the bottom three Ranger/Duelist/Marauder would do well. I think Raider/Pathfinder maths out to be higher damage and Slayer with it's overleech is the 'tanky' option.

Between the two, ranger and duelist, that I've played so far duelist is probably the safer option with minimal currency because of the immunity to bleed + over leech. Raider with deaths door is about equal but that over leech is just SO HUGE now with the VP rework.

After league is over or I'm bored trying to get challenges I am going to give Pathfinder and Berserker a try. Hell even Gladiator would work if you used say.. Soul Taker and a high pdps siege axe. You'd have some pretty crazy attack speed.

Be like the Tasmanian devil buzz sawing through a map.... which sounds fun and now I'm going to have to try it!

T.T

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Muirey wrote:

If you mean the ones under "3.1 End tree variations" they've been there the whole time. ;)

Yeah if you want as much life as possible that'd be the way to go but those are geared towards Disfavour/Axe not Kondo/Sword so just keep that in mind.

Oh really? I guess I'm just ignorant then haha. Alright, cheers. Will get that Razor Edge node done then:)

Eh, there is a lot of stuff in the main guide. I tried to not be super detailed but give enough to answer most questions. Even then it's a lot to read through.

However, once you have read it, if you're ever curious if anything is changed the second post on first page is the change log. I update it every time I add or change something to the main guide. A quick glance at that will tell you if anythings been added or changed.

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webas wrote:

What about berserker? It should do even more damage and the leech isnt much problem when you chill freeze mobs. Might be hard for bosses. Any thoughts?

Let me just say.... god damn you for getting me curious....

Already pathing out Berserker, Glad, Pathfinder trees to try.... hate you so much right now! ;D

Probably just a lot of dps. On path of building it might even be 300k dps (no totem damage) just pure cyclone.

With my items on standard...

Effective dps at lvl100, no flasks, vaal haste and ticking calcs to trigger berserker ascendancy is roughly 1.16m using Maim/Hypo and 1.48m ele focus/conc. With flasks Maim/hypo 1.97m and ele/conc 2.45m. Regular mapping damage not shaper or boss. Ele focus/conc would be for boss with either rare boots for life or vectors for more damage. Both with 16% speed on kill using the writhing jar to proc all the on recent kill buffs.


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And that is literally just moving points from my duelist tree to touch marauder and not reworking the pathing to be better. Seems viable but 6774 hp with a kaoms is kinda... low. I'd prefer high to mid 7k at least but using deaths doors in the gear setup and not a good pair of life rares.

I’m playing on Xbox and it seems really really hard to cap let alone over cap my resists. I’m using a devotos, hezmanas, belly, biscos, two stone rings, and some Titan greaves with res and life. Is the answer to just simply try and find better rares? Did you have any problem with resists?