[3.3 Raider] Muirey's 2h Freezing Cyclone - Raider Edition!

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The_L1ne wrote:

hello. I use this build too and have a big question: how do you manage to fullfill the INT requirements for frostbite? When I look into your profile you equipped gems which require 99int and you have no int on either the skilltree nor the items you wear.

Using fertile mind by fervor nets 64 int and using Primal Spirit nets another 20. So, 84 int from passive tree puts me at 98 int without any other investment.

If I have any skill gems above 98 int it is only for leveling them to get 20% quality. A 20/20% Frostbite is 98 int and 21/20% is 100 int. Both are doable without heavy investment in int.

Elemental Focus, Conc effect and inc area are another story. When leveling those for quality I pick up Ancestral Knowledge for 30int and Aspect of the lynx(using fertile mind) if I need any more for 50 more total int. Alternatively, you could throw on Carnage heart for the gem leveling for 30-56int depending on roll.

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ZhaQar wrote:

Would Shroud of Lightness be a better body armor investment? With 2 abyss sockets on it + using 3-4 abyss jewels in the tree you would be getting just a bit under the same around of HP that Kaom's would offer I think + I would put Leap Slam in there to help trigger the Shade Form as you're slamming around. This also allows you to retain using the totem for boss fights / fodder.

Edit: The int requirement on the armour seems pretty high as well. I'm finding it hard to grab equipment that also provides Int, feel like i'm stuck with Carnage Heart for the time being.

Same thing Blackdeath101 said, I don't try to get int on gear until very late or random lucky rolls. Fertile mind frees up so much hassle and brings the price of gear way down. The amount of damage/hp you can gain from cheaper items out weighs what you'd get from one well rolled jewel.

I think of Shroud of the Lightless more along the lines of Belly of the beast. Ideally you would want only the 1 abyss socket so you could 5link + the elemental pen passive. It would only really be used if you didn't have a disfavour or a elder weapon with 'socketed gems are supported' rolls.

If you had a very high pdps shaped weapon or non elder/shaped the chest would be a great 6l for damage and some good life. Belly would be more life and Kaom's would be even more.

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Shaped you could get 907.44, 27% attack speed, 10% elemental pen and 1 max frenzy charge. Could get this build back to 9 frenzy(or 10 with a passive reroute). Pretty strong as well, not an 8-link but don’t need an 8-link with 907 pure phys dps and 10% additional ele pen.

This is what I mean by a high rolled pdps weapon. Using that with a 5l shroud, cyclone-EDwA-Melee Phys+Ele Focus+Cold Pen with the extra elemental pen on shroud would be something fun to try out.

Flat life > %life on gear almost always. The bigger the number you are increasing by your % multipliers the bigger the end result.

Did some guardians last night, but they took a long time because my DPS on them was fairly low. Is there anything gear wise I should look at replacing, or do I just need levels to get the rest of those damage nodes?

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Takatsukii wrote:

Did some guardians last night, but they took a long time because my DPS on them was fairly low. Is there anything gear wise I should look at replacing, or do I just need levels to get the rest of those damage nodes?

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When doing bosses t16+ I recommend swapping Hypo out for Ele Focus and even better Ele focus + Conc. It is a HUGE difference.

I tend to do all my t16/Shaper/Atziri an in league Elder Guardian/Elder runs all at the same time. So I recolor my weapon and burn through all of it and then recolor for mapping after run out of those maps. In standard I just went ahead and bought a second 6l disfavour to run that GRRRBB setup all the time.

Side note: A 20/20% Blasphemy isn't really needed and could save you some int requirement. Also, the inc duration in leap slam was a derp on my part. Endurance charge on melee stun(VP) or Blood Magic(Non vp) would serve you better.

The Executioner node is helpful for the bigger bosses since they are on 'low life' much longer but yes you pretty much only have dmg nodes left to take on the passive tree so you're dmg will be going up every level.

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Muirey wrote:

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Takatsukii wrote:

Did some guardians last night, but they took a long time because my DPS on them was fairly low. Is there anything gear wise I should look at replacing, or do I just need levels to get the rest of those damage nodes?

Spoiler

When doing bosses t16+ I recommend swapping Hypo out for Ele Focus and even better Ele focus + Conc. It is a HUGE difference.

I tend to do all my t16/Shaper/Atziri an in league Elder Guardian/Elder runs all at the same time. So I recolor my weapon and burn through all of it and then recolor for mapping after run out of those maps. In standard I just went ahead and bought a second 6l disfavour to run that GRRRBB setup all the time.

Side note: A 20/20% Blasphemy isn't really needed and could save you some int requirement. Also, the inc duration in leap slam was a derp on my part. Endurance charge on melee stun(VP) or Blood Magic(Non vp) would serve you better.

The Executioner node is helpful for the bigger bosses since they are on 'low life' much longer but yes you pretty much only have dmg nodes left to take on the passive tree so you're dmg will be going up every level.

I guess I know where the rest of my currency will be going, then. I'm still stuck on a hard requirement of atleast 98 int, so dropping Blasphemy by a few levels won't do much, since the ring replacement would only be about 5-10 int, and nothing that major of an upgrade shows up.

Putting a point in Ancestral Knowledge is also fine for 30 int more or 2 points to pick up Aspect of the Lynx for 20 int as well as phys dmg/movement speed.



~~~~For Fun~~~~
PoB lets me craft elder/shaped things now and for the fun of big numbers...

https://pastebin.com/m1MyeXF1

100% Min/Maxed gear/jewels and Perfect Shaped Weapon. The dream! 3.7m Mapping and 2.2m Shaper. Long term goals!

i have to add something: if you go for vaal pact and hezmanas bloodlust: dont use daressos salute because it will literally help you with 200dps. You are nearly never on full life so the 60% increase will not trigger (only in town so you get nice screen dps)

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The_L1ne wrote:

i have to add something: if you go for vaal pact and hezmanas bloodlust: dont use daressos salute because it will literally help you with 200dps. You are nearly never on full life so the 60% increase will not trigger (only in town so you get nice screen dps)

As long as you are leeching you should be considered at 'full life'. It's a hard thing to nail down if it is actually working or not. I'm not looking at my dps while in the middle of a pack or on a boss.

Regardless, unless you get a daresso's for cheap carnage heart is good enough to carry you till Disfavour.

problem is that the leech stop the moment you reach full life and with vaal pact thats pretty fast and afterwards you isntantly loose health again because of the bloodmagic through hezmanas. so it is really not working together.

True, all the more reason to go Kondo over Hezmana heh.

i feel 4k life is too low, isnt it? i played some raider char and they were very squishy, Thank you!