Trade Manifesto

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Ragna89 wrote:

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mukavva wrote:

implement an auction house already. this manual trading system from 1980 is trash. scammers and bots everywhere.

Sadly, auction houses got ruined because D3 got greedy and had real money involved which lead to its removal and general infamy on the internet but everyone conveniently forgets that the real money transaction part is what made it ridiculous and bad.
If they kept it to in game currencies only and you couldn't just shove real money at them to obtain said currencies I bet it'd actually work out rather well.

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Pamphilo wrote:

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Ragna89 wrote:

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mukavva wrote:

implement an auction house already. this manual trading system from 1980 is trash. scammers and bots everywhere.

Sadly, auction houses got ruined because D3 got greedy and had real money involved which lead to its removal and general infamy on the internet but everyone conveniently forgets that the real money transaction part is what made it ridiculous and bad.
If they kept it to in game currencies only and you couldn't just shove real money at them to obtain said currencies I bet it'd actually work out rather well.

D3's auction house got ruined because of the RMT AH, that doesn't mean AH themselves got ruined wtf.. there are hundreds of games with AH, and though AH don't eliminate price fixing entirely it makes it much less prevalent, it fixes scamming, and it makes it so we don't have to alt tab out of the game we are playing so we can improve our game experience.. which is ridiculous

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Void_Seer wrote:

The more believable reason they wont bother implementing an AH is because people currently use poe.trade etc and GGG doesn't need to deal with upkeep and maintenance of one of the biggest parts of their game.

The alternative is the cost of implementing something that already exists (albeit in a horrible form) and be responsible for bug fixing etc when things inevitably go wrong.

All of the arguments against an AH are irrelevant when it's put in context that poe.trade etc already exist and that trading already occurs.

The logical conclusion therefore is that despite overwhelming desire for a better user experience, GGG doesn't care and instead would prefer to continually release the same game mechanics over and over again with different coats of paint while strongly ignoring the major flaws in their game. :P

Chris's arguments against an AH are just fluff. I also think PoE as a whole has run away from GGG to the point they have no idea how to fix the flaws in this game (AKA one shot, poor flasks system, reliance on uniques, defenses etc) and will just ride it out till PoEs end. I'm pessimistic though. I wish Blizzard would do Diablo justice with D4, achieving success to the point it forces GGG to actually work on their game. But Blizzard haven't made a good game since 2003 so I'm not expecting anything to change for the better here haha!

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Void_Seer wrote:

The more believable reason they wont bother implementing an AH is because people currently use poe.trade etc and GGG doesn't need to deal with upkeep and maintenance of one of the biggest parts of their game.

The alternative is the cost of implementing something that already exists (albeit in a horrible form) and be responsible for bug fixing etc when things inevitably go wrong.

All of the arguments against an AH are irrelevant when it's put in context that poe.trade etc already exist and that trading already occurs.

The logical conclusion therefore is that despite overwhelming desire for a better user experience, GGG doesn't care and instead would prefer to continually release the same game mechanics over and over again with different coats of paint while strongly ignoring the major flaws in their game. :P

Chris's arguments against an AH are just fluff. I also think PoE as a whole has run away from GGG to the point they have no idea how to fix the flaws in this game (AKA one shot, poor flasks system, reliance on uniques, defenses etc) and will just ride it out till PoEs end. I'm pessimistic though. I wish Blizzard would do Diablo justice with D4, achieving success to the point it forces GGG to actually work on their game. But Blizzard haven't made a good game since 2003 so I'm not expecting anything to change for the better here haha!

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On the trade market, we're experimenting with the opposite end of the trade spectrum, where it's very easy to complete trades but more difficult to find the exact item you're looking for. You can search broadly by a specific item class or type, but have to look through a lot of search results to find the one you want to make an offer on. This system intentionally makes the search process harder and the trade process easier, for quite a different trade experience. We're not planning to bring it to the international PC version of Path of Exile.

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sick bastard

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People who are heavily engaged in trade perform fewer item upgrades to achieve their final build. They get there in fewer steps, because they can easily buy items that are close to what they need. Simply put, their character progression is more about trading than it is about getting items from monsters. We believe that it is more fun to slowly and iteratively upgrade a character over time and to have a longer journey to gear a character up. Knowing that a monster could drop something that improves your character is a great motivator for playing one more level!

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Pls, play your own game more than 1 hour.