[3.3] MF Windripper Deadeye | TS and Barrage | PoB Link

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BanDeat wrote:

My mana drains so fast. It's hard to sustain with bosses, even rare monsters. Pls help.

ur talking about the lvl 30? .. mana flask and leveling ^^

below vaal pact there is a small node that gives 0.4% life and mana leeched which is pretty good for leveling purpose

Question: doing a variant of this build. Rolling a quiver and ended up with these two. I'd prefer to only multimod one (as I'm not vaaling... I may do :P). Which would be better?



so multimod> Life > Att speed > WED

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(T3 multi and wed). Multimod > Life > Att Speed

Advice appreciated!

EDIT: There's also the option of course to say scratch and start again, but... you know...

So I have been struggling to figure this out, but why don't my skill gem bonuses (top build in the below picture) show up in POB like they do for the standard mapping build from the OP (bottom build)? I have almost the same exact gear, but I am missing 200k DPS once I control for jewels/eyes. The same goes for cold damage.



Here's my build (I am going for a maximum IIQ build to mess around with in standard):

https://pastebin.com/zzF7VB5d

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exxidus wrote:

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BanDeat wrote:

My mana drains so fast. It's hard to sustain with bosses, even rare monsters. Pls help.

ur talking about the lvl 30? .. mana flask and leveling ^^

below vaal pact there is a small node that gives 0.4% life and mana leeched which is pretty good for leveling purpose

Yep that one. Okay then i'll check that out. Thanks!

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PyknoR wrote:

Question: doing a variant of this build. Rolling a quiver and ended up with these two. I'd prefer to only multimod one (as I'm not vaaling... I may do :P). Which would be better?

so multimod> Life > Att speed > WED

...or...

(T3 multi and wed). Multimod > Life > Att Speed

Advice appreciated!

EDIT: There's also the option of course to say scratch and start again, but... you know...

there is another option

the first i would multimod for sure

the second i would yolo with 2 exalts well at first with 1

and the third if you want to be safe - just sell the quiver for 3+ ex ... cheapest with this roll is 3ex which has some bad rolls already on it ... so i guess 4ex is kinda possible for the first
second probably more

Cheers for that exxidus. If I wanted to just craft one for self use, which one would be best? I assume the first one, as the wed on the 2nd one is so-so?

Edit: I won't yolo ex... I'm so unlucky with slamming... I don't want +6 mana on my quiver :P

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PyknoR wrote:

Cheers for that exxidus. If I wanted to just craft one for self use, which one would be best? I assume the first one, as the wed on the 2nd one is so-so?

Edit: I won't yolo ex... I'm so unlucky with slamming... I don't want +6 mana on my quiver :P

well, then its still the 2nd - wed craft is 8-22 so less for sure if you craft multimod and craft wed urself

To clarify the fork/ pierce discussion:

Tornadoshot has two projektile types:
- the First projektile (the arrow flying away from your Char.)is always piercing and pierce fork chain has no effect on it
- The second projektiles (the 3 smaller ones going off in the explosion) doesn't pierce and pierce, fork and chain do effect these secondary projektiles

The order is first pierce then fork and at last chain. Every pierce must be used before the projektile will fork.

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xDGree wrote:

Great build, played it alot.
Im playing deadeye, can smn explaine isnt Endless Munition > Ricochet? One more arrow for more dmg and more aoe. Or does Ricochet gives more mdg and practical aoe becouse of Chain? Can smn plz explaine mechanic of this, cant decide what to pick as last point.
Im even thinking is it worth to switch Fast And deadly to have both, ricochet and munition?

So can smn clarify it?

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hce1989 wrote:

To clarify the fork/ pierce discussion:

Tornadoshot has two projektile types:
- the First projektile (the arrow flying away from your Char.)is always piercing and pierce fork chain has no effect on it
- The second projektiles (the 3 smaller ones going off in the explosion) doesn't pierce and pierce, fork and chain do effect these secondary projektiles

The order is first pierce then fork and at last chain. Every pierce must be used before the projektile will fork.

this is true ... BUT

usually every player that plays with TS is using projectiles pierce x additional target from skill tree!

+ many use the enchant that tornado secondary projetiles pierce 2 additional times


Every enemy can only be hit by 1 secondary projectile - therefore with TS 3 arrows + additional arrow (or even 2 on shaped quiver) you have 4 x 3 or 5 x 3 secondary projectiles the monster groups have to be over 12 or 15, without any "projectiles pierce" nodes to be able to fork and hit another monster, that wasnt hit yet... If you have the node on tree: "projectiles hit an extra 2 targets" your 12 or 15 secondary projectiles already hit 36-45 targets ... see the problem with forking secondary projectiles? They can not hit any monster anymore, because the secondary projectile is not allowed to hit the same monster twice
Making Fork even for the secondary projectiles useless - even tho they could, theoretically, fork

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xDGree wrote:

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xDGree wrote:

Great build, played it alot.
Im playing deadeye, can smn explaine isnt Endless Munition > Ricochet? One more arrow for more dmg and more aoe. Or does Ricochet gives more mdg and practical aoe becouse of Chain? Can smn plz explaine mechanic of this, cant decide what to pick as last point.
Im even thinking is it worth to switch Fast And deadly to have both, ricochet and munition?

So can smn clarify it?

explained multiple times in the discussions on the last few pages.

But to clarify it specifically for you too: Tornado Shot Projectiles have 100% pierce and therefore can not chain at all

Secondary Projectiles explained in the quote above - can also only theoretically chain, not in praxis

Additional Arrow is the only thing that does anything for a Tornado Shot player, because it give you an additional 100% piercing Tornado Shot + extra 3 Secondary Projetiles (or 5 with helm enchant)