[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Just killed uber elder and it was hard, wasted 1 set and used 4 portals for second time. This was my first time fighting with uber elder, so, maybe it would be better after some practice. My AG stayed alive all the time, but TVs died few times.
All the other bosses was deathless - the hardest is minotaur imho, second is hydra. Phoenix, Chimera and Shaper are easy.
Still didn't try uber atziri, can't get the last fragment, but I believe she won't be as hard as uber elder.
Last edited by MingONE#7863 on Apr 2, 2018, 4:44:12 AM
Hi! Could you help me to improve/upgrade my build?

Gear



Jewels:
2x Fragility
1x Anatomical Knowledge
1x Unending Hunger


Tree
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/3.2.2/AAAABAMDAQHcBAcEswj0ES0UIBSpFScWbxg8GFYaPhpsHNwkqij6KpgsnC_MMtE1kjbpOlg8LT38QYdEBEVHRZ1HfklPSshMs025UEdTUlXGVi1YY1qRXypfP2VNaPJqQ2qsa9tuqm87d-N4DXk5eWh7w3yDfRh-4oLHg1-DzIPbhNmFMoVgiECKr4yxjM-Ovo8akBGQM5LBly2YrZrgm4qiAKasqH2pbqrErJi18rc-uJO8qrzqvSe9Nr5PvqfAGsBmwQTBgsS4zLzQH9OP0_vV-Ni92QvZXt-w42rr5Ovu7IPsiu8O7-vwH_ZI99f56PqA_gr-gQ==?accountName=Pure&characterName=Rapid


What I plan to change:

- Level up and get quality on gems
- Get amulet with %block chance applied to spells (~35%)
- Get ghastly jewels with max life and minion damage

I'm using 4x Solar Guards for mapping and minor bosses like Guardians (killed them all). Recently I've bought an Elder helmet to use it for TVs later on (to kill end-game bosses). I think this is better option than recolouring Vis Mortis every time I want to kill Shaper/Uber Atziri/Uber Elder and maybe some tougher bosses. It gives me also good amount of resistances, life, minion damage and armour.

What do you think, guys? Currency isn't really a problem.

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Do you think that Flame Golems would work better than SGs? I'd swap gems for Flame Golems in the Vis Mortis, get Anima Stone, Primordial Might and 2x Primordial Harmony jewels, then change my shield to one with %block chance to spells and more life. Then I would be able to use TVs for general mapping/bosskilling. Is this a better option than SGs?
Last edited by Pure#0098 on Apr 2, 2018, 12:41:00 PM
never. if flame golems, so TVs. Without for mapping SGs, with flame golems- TV only. but if really flame golems will give you less def cuz of lost of 1 4l setup. they don realy do good damage, so you need to bug them with all stone. 1 primordial might, 1 anima stone and other ALL primordial harmony (5, if less so no good dmg). but they still will be not really good. they will clean as fast as SGs (or close to this) but... ye, lost of 4l.
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Fraudik wrote:
never. if flame golems, so TVs. Without for mapping SGs, with flame golems- TV only. but if really flame golems will give you less def cuz of lost of 1 4l setup. they don realy do good damage, so you need to bug them with all stone. 1 primordial might, 1 anima stone and other ALL primordial harmony (5, if less so no good dmg). but they still will be not really good. they will clean as fast as SGs (or close to this) but... ye, lost of 4l.


I wouldn't lose any 4L due to minions swap. I'd just place Flame Golems in Vis Mortis, and TVs in pseudo 6L (in helmet). Also I was playing today with a guy who has 1x Anima Stone, 1x Primordial Might and 3x Primordial Harmony and guess what - he was shattering trough the t14 map w/o any issues, in party with me.

It would cost me about 2.5 ex to get all the jewels for that transition, but I'd be able to use 4x TVs in the same time with Flame Golems. I'm just not sure if it's enough for Shaper, Uber Atziri and Uber Elder.

As someone noticed, it would be a pain in the ass to search for TVs corpse while in Shaper's Realm, after dealing with minor bosses while running with SGs.
Last edited by Pure#0098 on Apr 2, 2018, 3:17:00 PM
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Pure wrote:
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Fraudik wrote:
never. if flame golems, so TVs. Without for mapping SGs, with flame golems- TV only. but if really flame golems will give you less def cuz of lost of 1 4l setup. they don realy do good damage, so you need to bug them with all stone. 1 primordial might, 1 anima stone and other ALL primordial harmony (5, if less so no good dmg). but they still will be not really good. they will clean as fast as SGs (or close to this) but... ye, lost of 4l.


I wouldn't lose any 4L due to minions swap. I'd just place Flame Golems in Vis Mortis, and TVs in pseudo 6L (in helmet). Also I was playing today with a guy who has 1x Anima Stone, 1x Primordial Might and 3x Primordial Harmony and guess what - he was shattering trough the t14 map w/o any issues, in party with me.

It would cost me about 2.5 ex to get all the jewels for that transition, but I'd be able to use 4x TVs in the same time with Flame Golems. I'm just not sure if it's enough for Shaper, Uber Atziri and Uber Elder.

As someone noticed, it would be a pain in the ass to search for TVs corpse while in Shaper's Realm, after dealing with minor bosses while running with SGs.


So, helmet - for TVs, chest - for golems. And this mean that you have no AG, and this is a huge minus. You need to place AG in the helmet with +X to level of socketed minion gems to deal with uber elder/uber atziri without leeting your AG die
Last edited by MingONE#7863 on Apr 3, 2018, 3:35:00 AM
I saw many people in party and in hardcore using this
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Magna_Eclipsis

really good for socketing your Animate guardian level 20 + empower level 3, the AG becomes level 26 and you can add a level 22 minion life support
Last edited by Giammafix#2456 on Apr 3, 2018, 4:06:48 AM
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Giammafix wrote:
I saw many people in party and in hardcore using this
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Magna_Eclipsis

really good for socketing your Animate guardian level 20 + empower level 3, the AG becomes level 26 and you can add a level 22 minion life support


Yeah, its a good option, just don't forget to unbind your X from swap weapons.
And second minus is - you lose +(40-50)% of block applied to spells bonus
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MingONE wrote:
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Giammafix wrote:
I saw many people in party and in hardcore using this
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Magna_Eclipsis

really good for socketing your Animate guardian level 20 + empower level 3, the AG becomes level 26 and you can add a level 22 minion life support


Yeah, its a good option, just don't forget to unbind your X from swap weapons.
And second minus is - you lose +(40-50)% of block applied to spells bonus


right, but people using that shield have either an amulet with "block chance applied to spells" and/or reckless defence jewel.
I don't know if a level 26 AG is enough even without a minion life support, if so it could spare a socket.
I'm considering that the weapon swap could potentially save the AG from death if you notice he's low and at risk, though in fights like the uber elder it would be too messy to resummon him
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MingONE wrote:
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Pure wrote:
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Fraudik wrote:
never. if flame golems, so TVs. Without for mapping SGs, with flame golems- TV only. but if really flame golems will give you less def cuz of lost of 1 4l setup. they don realy do good damage, so you need to bug them with all stone. 1 primordial might, 1 anima stone and other ALL primordial harmony (5, if less so no good dmg). but they still will be not really good. they will clean as fast as SGs (or close to this) but... ye, lost of 4l.


I wouldn't lose any 4L due to minions swap. I'd just place Flame Golems in Vis Mortis, and TVs in pseudo 6L (in helmet). Also I was playing today with a guy who has 1x Anima Stone, 1x Primordial Might and 3x Primordial Harmony and guess what - he was shattering trough the t14 map w/o any issues, in party with me.

It would cost me about 2.5 ex to get all the jewels for that transition, but I'd be able to use 4x TVs in the same time with Flame Golems. I'm just not sure if it's enough for Shaper, Uber Atziri and Uber Elder.

As someone noticed, it would be a pain in the ass to search for TVs corpse while in Shaper's Realm, after dealing with minor bosses while running with SGs.


So, helmet - for TVs, chest - for golems. And this mean that you have no AG, and this is a huge minus. You need to place AG in the helmet with +X to level of socketed minion gems to deal with uber elder/uber atziri without leeting your AG die


I can drop Flesh Offering - Bone Offering - Faster Casting - Increased Duration link, then pit there AG - Minion Life - Empower - Raise Zombie (or something else instead of zombies) and that's it. With full block I don't need CWDT - IC - Tempest Shield setup anyway. And Yeah, I can also sell my actual helmet and buy one with +3 and Minion dmg,so I can put TVs in my armour, but that would be really expensive. My helmet is worth about 3 ex, and one with +2/+3 and Minion dmg can cost much more.
Last edited by Pure#0098 on Apr 3, 2018, 5:34:22 AM
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Pure wrote:
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MingONE wrote:
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Pure wrote:


I wouldn't lose any 4L due to minions swap. I'd just place Flame Golems in Vis Mortis, and TVs in pseudo 6L (in helmet). Also I was playing today with a guy who has 1x Anima Stone, 1x Primordial Might and 3x Primordial Harmony and guess what - he was shattering trough the t14 map w/o any issues, in party with me.

It would cost me about 2.5 ex to get all the jewels for that transition, but I'd be able to use 4x TVs in the same time with Flame Golems. I'm just not sure if it's enough for Shaper, Uber Atziri and Uber Elder.

As someone noticed, it would be a pain in the ass to search for TVs corpse while in Shaper's Realm, after dealing with minor bosses while running with SGs.


So, helmet - for TVs, chest - for golems. And this mean that you have no AG, and this is a huge minus. You need to place AG in the helmet with +X to level of socketed minion gems to deal with uber elder/uber atziri without leeting your AG die


I can drop Flesh Offering - Bone Offering - Faster Casting - Increased Duration link, then pit there AG - Minion Life - Empower - Raise Zombie (or something else instead of zombies) and that's it. With full block I don't need CWDT - IC - Tempest Shield setup anyway. And Yeah, I can also sell my actual helmet and buy one with +3 and Minion dmg,so I can put TVs in my armour, but that would be really expensive. My helmet is worth about 3 ex, and one with +2/+3 and Minion dmg can cost much more.


If you would set your AG in the item without +X to level of socketed (minion) gems - he wont stay alive against uber elder / uber atziri

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