[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

"

Giammafix wrote:

"

MingONE wrote:

My guardian easily facetank phoenix, shaper and t15 elder
Would check him with uber atziri in a week and uber elder (when I would reach him, currently I am on 13/15 fragments) and would write results here.

My AG setup is:

My AG items are:
Helmet: Bringer of Rain
Chest: Icetomb
Gloves: Some rare with good health and res
Boots: Rainbowstride
Weapon: Double Dyadus

So, he is very highly overcapped with resistances, even too much. Maybe I should change his boots with victario flight's to boost my own movement speed or with some good boots with high life roll, but actually he just do what he should to do - boost my TV's damage and stay alive

do you think that the AG can survive even without a "+ X" level of socketed minion gems in the helmet?

also, I was thinking of swapping icetomb with ambu's charge (for free endurance charges along with BoR effect) and dyadus with dying breath only for mapping with solar guards, because I'm not sure that solar guards can apply burning to bosses with their skill and elemental focus linked...

I don't think AG would survive without "+ X" level of socketed minion gems in the helmet against uber elder, but he, probably, would in battle with everebody others. Every level is 4% incresed life for the AG gem itsealf (+3 = 12%) AND +1% more for "Minion Life" gem (+3 = 3% More). So, 3% more life + 12% increased life totally is a very solid bonus. Currently my AG has more than 42k life (this is what tooltip said) and I would get 21/20% minion life gem before trying uber elder.

Also, my passive tree is a little bit different from what we can see in topic - you can check it out, my profile is public

(forum bug, delete please)

(forum bug, delete please)

"

MingONE wrote:

I don't think AG would survive without "+ X" level of socketed minion gems in the helmet against uber elder, but he, probably, would in battle with everebody others. Every level is 4% incresed life for the AG gem itsealf (+3 = 12%) AND +1% more for "Minion Life" gem (+3 = 3% More). So, 3% more life + 12% increased life totally is a very solid bonus. Currently my AG has more than 42k life (this is what tooltip said) and I would get 21/20% minion life gem before trying uber elder.

Also, my passive tree is a little bit different from what we can see in topic - you can check it out, my profile is public

I see that, it's similar to mine except for the additional block chance nodes I took, that tree allows to get more useful abyss jewels for the minions.
Seems that the guy who killed the uber elder with spectres used a +2 minion gem helmet so that level could suffice.
If you can get enough block chance applied to spells on the amulet, Magna Eclipsis looks like a good option for the AG

ps: almost forgot to ask, what do you think about Singularity sceptre + Victario's charity/Atziri's mirror (or double Singularity) for mapping with Solar guards / Flame golems? Does the hinder from the sceptre affect the hits of the minions? (I'm talking about the "(60-80)% increased Damage with Hits and Ailments against Hindered Enemies")

Not to mention that if I'm correct, it's possible to keep an AG gem with SG mapping setup and another one with TV/bossing setup

Question for those of us who are dabbling at the high end of content (particularly relevant for fellow HC players)...what's your take on utilizing the aspect of the crab?

I realize it uses 25% of our mana (which is kind of a bummer because it directly impacts our EHP, but that 20% physical mitigation is kind of tempting to try)..

In addition, what's your take on utilizing the shaper recovery life/mana on block shields? I'm assuming this is more of a luxury-type item to further enhance survivability (seeing as I am REASONABLY confident I can only die to a savagely large one-shot style mechanic).

If I am running 4xSG or 3xSG and an TV, what should I be equipping my AG with. It looks like there are two basic choices:

Dyadus x 2
Bringer of Rain
Icetomb
Ranbowstride
Rare Gloves (life & resistance)

or

Leer Cast
Vicatrio's Flight
Zahn's Cassock
Dying Breath
Rare Gloves (Life and Resists).

"

If I am running 4xSG or 3xSG and an TV, what should I be equipping my AG with. It looks like there are two basic choices:

Dyadus x 2
Bringer of Rain
Icetomb
Ranbowstride
Rare Gloves (life & resistance)

or

Leer Cast
Vicatrio's Flight
Zahn's Cassock
Dying Breath
Rare Gloves (Life and Resists).

Dyadus isn't going to do anything for the SG's, but will give the 200% to the TV. I guess it depends what you're using a majority of the time. With the Leer Cast setup you're going to be getting ~33% damage to all your minions at all times.

I'd say Dyadus if you're slower on bosses and Leer/DB for overall clear speed. Also worth considering Southbound gloves instead of the Rare w/ resist(~16% life + cold res). Haven't lost an AG since I started using this setup.

The leveling passive point progression needs updating I think.

I look at Natt's current build in PoB and he goes left instead of taking the mana nodes also deep wisdom is not taken.

I've seen a similar path progression with Ghazzy's build, where he starts off by taking the int nodes on the left side of the witch tree.

So is the pathing for the leveling progression still relevant?

Max block is entirely optional for SC. I found the build to work better in SC by going for pure DPS.

You shouldn't be wading into packs with this build anyway. Base block with around 8k+ EHP is plenty good enough. Especially if you use arc + curse on hit + temp chains + enfeeble.

Look at the gear I'm using on my profile. That's all you need for softcore.

"

MrSmiley21 wrote:

Max block is entirely optional for SC. I found the build to work better in SC by going for pure DPS.

You shouldn't be wading into packs with this build anyway. Base block with around 8k+ EHP is plenty good enough. Especially if you use arc + curse on hit + temp chains + enfeeble.

Look at the gear I'm using on my profile. That's all you need for softcore.

Maybe even just enfeeble? Im using flammable atm tho trying how reducing my defensives to minimal affects my survivability and then cranking them up if needed. Havent done any t16 on my summoner yet though. Lost one AG to uul-netol.

EDIT: Which one is the best support for both AG and zombies: minion life, empower or fortify? Cant really decide cause empower doesnt affect zombies in any way.