[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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alpha0meqa wrote:
Question....I'm probably stupid but hopefully someone can help. Currently level 70 doing maps on my 2nd char. I've got all the gear. Missing 6L in chest, but my TVs are dying relatively easy. Can't keep them alive....What am I missing? With Bone offering I'm missing 20% to block for the cap...is that it? I'm max spll blocked


Where are you raising them, on the low tier shore yes? Re-raise them using your high level desecrate gem in your highest tier map available. They scale based off desecrate and map tier where they are summoned from iirc.
I’m new to spectres and in mid-maps atm. I have just read thru the last ~20 pages of this post and have a couple comments/questions:

1. Here is my current build: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Takuwind. Now using 3 SG on a Tabula. I am probably going to try setting up the AG with Dyadus soon…
2. Most important first: there has been a TON of questions about what support gem to drop for 5L, but almost no answers. Can we get a clear opinion on what to drop for (1) TV/WM and (2) SG?
3. I tried a bunch of spells and found Freezing Pulse to be superior (for mapping) as an Elemental Equilibrium trigger. The spell moves crazy fast and hits everything almost right away. Ball Lightning is far too slow. However be aware that the OP probably has a reason for using Ball Lightning in End-Game, where the slowness may be an advantage.
4. I got tired of how damn slow this build is and did a full respec, moving my buffs off my weapons so I can do weapon swapping. I now use (for fast-mapping) a Brightbeak and an all-green Prismatic Eclipse with whirling blades and it is crazy fast. Sometimes on bosses, I swap back to the standard claw/shield for survivability.
5. Is there a way to run 2 TV and 2 SG on a single Tabula? Since the support gems conflict, is there an optimum support gem setup for this?
6. For a little while I made an interesting defensive set-up. I put Bone Offering on a CWDT gem, so that it popped whenever I started getting hit.
7. For levelling, Glacial Cascade is a frigging amazing mob-melter. Spec early with wands for actual spell damage, then after switching to spectres go with the claw/shield.


What about this one? Is it worth using instead of skullhead? I just started lvling this one, but found the elder item pretty neat.
Would it possibly be worthwhile to use The Baron helmet or Shapers Touch?
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Takuwind wrote:
I’m new to spectres and in mid-maps atm. I have just read thru the last ~20 pages of this post and have a couple comments/questions:

1. Here is my current build: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Takuwind. Now using 3 SG on a Tabula. I am probably going to try setting up the AG with Dyadus soon…
2. Most important first: there has been a TON of questions about what support gem to drop for 5L, but almost no answers. Can we get a clear opinion on what to drop for (1) TV/WM and (2) SG?
3. I tried a bunch of spells and found Freezing Pulse to be superior (for mapping) as an Elemental Equilibrium trigger. The spell moves crazy fast and hits everything almost right away. Ball Lightning is far too slow. However be aware that the OP probably has a reason for using Ball Lightning in End-Game, where the slowness may be an advantage.
4. I got tired of how damn slow this build is and did a full respec, moving my buffs off my weapons so I can do weapon swapping. I now use (for fast-mapping) a Brightbeak and an all-green Prismatic Eclipse with whirling blades and it is crazy fast. Sometimes on bosses, I swap back to the standard claw/shield for survivability.
5. Is there a way to run 2 TV and 2 SG on a single Tabula? Since the support gems conflict, is there an optimum support gem setup for this?
6. For a little while I made an interesting defensive set-up. I put Bone Offering on a CWDT gem, so that it popped whenever I started getting hit.
7. For levelling, Glacial Cascade is a frigging amazing mob-melter. Spec early with wands for actual spell damage, then after switching to spectres go with the claw/shield.


I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities.
For best 5l using TV Spectre, Minion Dmg, Burn Dmg, Elem Focus, Minion Totem Resist. 5l using SG Spectre, Minion Dmg, GMP, Spell Echo, Elem Focus. If using a Tabula for SG then use Spectre, Minion Dmg, GMP, Spell Echo, Elem Focus, Control Destruction.
If you like freezing pulse then use that, there is no right or wrong in this instance.
Running 2 TV and 2 SG on a Tabula, you wont be able to achieve the best optimum result. Rather get a Elder helm with burning dmg and minion dmg instead if you want to run 2 TV and 2 SG.
Problem with bone offering with CWDT is no corpse around, for that you can use another CWDT with desecrate. The 2 CWDT will help with survibility especially if you play HC.
For levelling, using a Aurumvorax for resist, a Baron Helm with SRS, Minion Dmg, Minion Speed and Melee Splash will be pretty fast as well.
Last edited by RonnieLee#4810 on Mar 14, 2018, 11:38:09 PM
Realy like your build so far, but is animate guardian realy necessarry for this build? I dont like the idea if he die that i have to get all the items again :).
If im not using the animated guardian, is there something else to use instead?

Also: why are 2 offerings used, there can only be one up at all time or not?
Just use 2 items as head and weapon for 28% minion damage, it's a huge boost and they cost 1 alc each. U will farm 2 alcs with that within 10 minutes or faster.
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Enterich wrote:
Realy like your build so far, but is animate guardian realy necessarry for this build? I dont like the idea if he die that i have to get all the items again :).
If im not using the animated guardian, is there something else to use instead?

Also: why are 2 offerings used, there can only be one up at all time or not?


Giving him enough gear to cap resist will make him tanky enough for most content. In my opinion, when doing Uber Elder or any hard content of that level it's better to just unequip him and use a gem to make zombies tankier/powerful as it's not worth using him knowing he WILL die.
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Last edited by alexchaos#3015 on Mar 15, 2018, 5:04:57 AM
Did anyone test Uber elder with this build?

What type of gear you used etc.
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RonnieLee wrote:


I'll try to answer to the best of my abilities.
For best 5l using TV Spectre, Minion Dmg, Burn Dmg, Elem Focus, Minion Totem Resist. 5l using SG Spectre, Minion Dmg, GMP, Spell Echo, Elem Focus. If using a Tabula for SG then use Spectre, Minion Dmg, GMP, Spell Echo, Elem Focus, Control Destruction.
If you like freezing pulse then use that, there is no right or wrong in this instance.
Running 2 TV and 2 SG on a Tabula, you wont be able to achieve the best optimum result. Rather get a Elder helm with burning dmg and minion dmg instead if you want to run 2 TV and 2 SG.
Problem with bone offering with CWDT is no corpse around, for that you can use another CWDT with desecrate. The 2 CWDT will help with survibility especially if you play HC.
For levelling, using a Aurumvorax for resist, a Baron Helm with SRS, Minion Dmg, Minion Speed and Melee Splash will be pretty fast as well.


Thanks! Really good info.

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