[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

I'm happy to report that my first shaper attempt went smooth and deathless.
I used 3x Tukohamas and 1x Wicker Man

Had to pull out my Guardian during the shaper beams with convocation to avoid its death. And sometimes during the hailstorm thing or whatever you call it.
I only had AG linked to lvl 3 empower in a +2 helmet and nothing else, although I added minion life now.

During the second phase I messed up and had Zana die. But i survived the hailstorm without taking a single it. (Ty max spellblock)

The build is working brilliant so far :)

This is my current setup, in case someone is interested:


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Also managed to finish Vaal Temple (not too rippy mods) and uber Atziri deathless. And I've never done them before

Edited: Read the stats wrong for minion resistance lol.

Also what is the gem setup for solar guards mapping?

What's the base damage of tukohama's vanguards from shaper? Do we even have such a date anywhere?

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happylittletree wrote:

I'm happy to report that my first shaper attempt went smooth and deathless.
I used 3x Tukohamas and 1x Wicker Man

Had to pull out my Guardian during the shaper beams with convocation to avoid its death. And sometimes during the hailstorm thing or whatever you call it.
I only had AG linked to lvl 3 empower in a +2 helmet and nothing else, although I added minion life now.

During the second phase I messed up and had Zana die. But i survived the hailstorm without taking a single it. (Ty max spellblock)

The build is working brilliant so far :)

This is my current setup, in case someone is interested:

Spoiler

Edit:
Also managed to finish Vaal Temple (not too rippy mods) and uber Atziri deathless. And I've never done them before

Congrats Exile. Unfortunatley my shaper run didn't go as well as yours :( IDK what to do

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Righteousho wrote:

Hey guys, great thread and build I've got 2 guardians down and am pushing towards the shaper. I am looking to switch to the quasi 6 link helm and I have a question I'm hoping you can help. I rolled a elder helm with 20 minion damage, 16 burning damage, and 18 concentrated effect do we get any benefit from that conf effect, or should I continue rolling the helm for something better. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Edit: I'm on Xbox

No benefit for concentrated effect and TVs. Solar Guards benefit from that, but not burning damage, so... Honestly, I'd probably run the helm the way it is if I were you. :)

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Frantic_Cajun wrote:

Congrats Exile. Unfortunatley my shaper run didn't go as well as yours :( IDK what to do

I glanced at your character. It seems pretty obvious to me what you should do - just keep following the guide and get better gear :/

You're still on a 5link, and you didn't skill "Herd the Flock". I didn't look at your jewels, but I'm assuming that without minion/totem ele resistance gem, your spectres don't have maxed resistances. This kills the spectre.

You're using two uniques (adv. fortress/skullhead) that are specifically listed as "leveling items" not really meant for the endgame. Your gems are low level. Unless you're swapping in your empower before casting desecrate, you're not even raising max level spectres. Your animate guardian is lvl 19 with a level 2 empower and no fortify. It will die.

As for you, you have terrible life rolls on most of your gear. You're still using stone of lazhwar - switch to a shaper amulet or shield. You only have a single flat mana roll on your gear, so I'm pretty sure you don't have enough mana to get much out of MoM.

Just a lot of basic progression stuff, honestly. The single most important thing for shaper is getting your minion resistances up, and the simplest way is by upgrading to a 6L. Gem levels will help a ton too.

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MiguelFg wrote:

Any improvements? I have only 1 guardian an red elder down. Level 89. Full TV and fire golems.

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Also one question, why always clarity? Isn't for example Anger better for more fire damage to minions? In my situation fire golems and TV?

Quality 20 your gems - especially minion damage for your TVs.

Anger aura? Hopefully you're not actually using that. You can only use Anger when linked with Generosity, so it doesn't affect you. Running it solo like that means your attacks and spells do fire damage, which triggers Elemental Equilibrium and destroys your Spectre's damage... meaning you lose 75% of your damage!

If you're not using Zombies, I'd drop Puppet Master off the tree. Your spectres should be just fine without the extra life.

Edit: Clarity. Because it's CHEAP. A level 1 clarity reserves 34 mana. Anger, if you have 3000 mana, reserves 1500 of that. We use Mind over Matter which uses our mana to boost our effective life, and clarity is the only aura that isn't % based.

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Ozhammar wrote:

One quick question, im was thinking about wicker men skills and i started to google for info so as the guide says "they are big bears" who can be found in the ravaged square... but they arent bears at all they are some kind of ugly monster... am i right? or im getting the wrong dude cause the tukohama's vanguards are great but i dont see any righteous fire (if it has any animation like the skill gem) coming from the wickers.

They are some kind of monster for sure. Press A and hover over the corpses on the ground, you should get a tooltip that tells you what corpse is targeted.

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Frantic_Cajun wrote:

So I completely destroyed the Gaurdians but when I did shaper things didn't go as smoothly. I managed to get him to the 3rd phase but was out of portals. The issue was my spectres and minions were dying quite easy to him. So I'm panicking trying to get them back which caused me to not focus on the fight as much. Could someone look at my character and give me some tips or something to change to help me. I used 4 tukohoma vangaurds for the single target damage. Thanks in advance

Probably primarily your desecrate gem. It's only level 19, so you are limited to level 81 spectres. Shaper's Realm is level 84, so you are bringing in Spectres that are 3 levels lower than the base monsters!

Jewels. Life / Mana / Damage mods that actually help. Minions deal additional damage doesn't work for TVs, because they don't hit. You need % increase.

Buy a bunch of Gem Cutter's Prisms and quality out your minion support skill gems. Start with Minion Damage.

Seriously consider dropping the leveling gear - advancing fortress, skullhead, lazhwar, for end-game gear. The Scourge, rare Bone helm, a rare shaped amulet with % of block applied to spells. You'll likely need to drop a flask for a Rumi's to keep your block at max for bosses.

On the subject of flasks... quality yours, and max their capabilities. You have some that don't even have both affixes yet.

Shield charge - link it with Fortify and faster attacks. Or drop shield charge for whirling blades, it doesn't care about your base move speed, so it works out to a faster skill if you need to drop your quicksilver flask.

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happylittletree wrote:

I'm happy to report that my first shaper attempt went smooth and deathless.
I used 3x Tukohamas and 1x Wicker Man

Had to pull out my Guardian during the shaper beams with convocation to avoid its death. And sometimes during the hailstorm thing or whatever you call it.
I only had AG linked to lvl 3 empower in a +2 helmet and nothing else, although I added minion life now.

During the second phase I messed up and had Zana die. But i survived the hailstorm without taking a single it. (Ty max spellblock)

The build is working brilliant so far :)

This is my current setup, in case someone is interested:

Spoiler

Edit:
Also managed to finish Vaal Temple (not too rippy mods) and uber Atziri deathless. And I've never done them before

Nice! I'd probably drop your dual socket belt for a single socket with life / resists / maybe armour.

And I'd be really interested to know how close you are maxing spell block with Rumi's and Bone Offering up without that amulet. I suspect you are massively overcapped on spell block. :)