[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri
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Ok, doing pretty well into T13 maps and such. Just got a 6L Vis Mortis, and am thinking of investing into a good 6L helm with Minion life, damage and burning to run with golems. I have a few questions though.
- Am I better off going Golems + 4 TV's, and if so is the helm mentioned above good for such a set up?
- If I run golems, do I need the complete set of Primordial Jewels?
- Skeles are dying pretty easy atm, do I just ditch them?
- We use a elemental focus support in a burning build, does this not stop burning?
Finally, this has been one of the funnest and also most intensive thinking builds I've ever played. I'm sure I've missed something or screwed something up. Any advice on gear upgrades / Tree amendments would be greatly appreciated!
So, it depends. SGs are great at clearspeed and don't need the help from FGs. TVs are kind of weak at clearspeed, but do better on boss melting, so adding FGs helps with clearspeed. Personally I'm running SGs and I'm not at all unhappy with their performance.
Not sure about the primordial jewels, from what I've read you need at least some of them or the FGs won't play aggressively enough. However, I'm by no means an expert on golems.
I'd have dropped the skeletons long ago if you're doing T13s. I dropped zombies, too, they just don't bring any benefits that I care about anymore.
Elemental Focus. Yes, you are technically correct. However, what we find in actual play is that nearly nothing lives long enough to burn anyway, and we still benefit from the massive damage multiplier. So... /me shrugs. We use it anyway. There are lots of cases where we use gear that only benefits us in small parts, and this is one of them.
PS: Your character is pretty damn solid, too. Nothing obvious that I'd change there until you get some currency to throw around, then I'd likely drop the shield / amulet and pick one up with % of block chance applied to spells, which will free up either your shield or your amulet slot.
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Last edited by grimjack68#6087 on Jan 22, 2018, 12:17:30 AM
Ok, doing pretty well into T13 maps and such. Just got a 6L Vis Mortis, and am thinking of investing into a good 6L helm with Minion life, damage and burning to run with golems. I have a few questions though.
- Am I better off going Golems + 4 TV's, and if so is the helm mentioned above good for such a set up?
- If I run golems, do I need the complete set of Primordial Jewels?
- Skeles are dying pretty easy atm, do I just ditch them?
- We use a elemental focus support in a burning build, does this not stop burning?
Finally, this has been one of the funnest and also most intensive thinking builds I've ever played. I'm sure I've missed something or screwed something up. Any advice on gear upgrades / Tree amendments would be greatly appreciated!
So, it depends. SGs are great at clearspeed and don't need the help from FGs. TVs are kind of weak at clearspeed, but do better on boss melting, so adding FGs helps with clearspeed. Personally I'm running SGs and I'm not at all unhappy with their performance.
Not sure about the primordial jewels, from what I've read you need at least some of them or the FGs won't play aggressively enough. However, I'm by no means an expert on golems.
I'd have dropped the skeletons long ago if you're doing T13s. I dropped zombies, too, they just don't bring any benefits that I care about anymore.
Elemental Focus. Yes, you are technically correct. However, what we find in actual play is that nearly nothing lives long enough to burn anyway, and we still benefit from the massive damage multiplier. So... /me shrugs. We use it anyway. There are lots of cases where we use gear that only benefits us in small parts, and this is one of them.
PS: Your character is pretty damn solid, too. Nothing obvious that I'd change there until you get some currency to throw around, then I'd likely drop the shield / amulet and pick one up with % of block chance applied to spells, which will free up either your shield or your amulet slot.
Yeah I want to aim more at bossing into guardians, shaper, and really high maps. Currently using SG for clear speed and leveling which they do great! But when i get to bosses they struggle with damage a bit.
I meant zombies, not skeletons haha but you answered that too I guess.
If I'm running TV's what is the optimum setup? Also cheers for the speedy reply!
Yeah I want to aim more at bossing into guardians, shaper, and really high maps. Currently using SG for clear speed and leveling which they do great! But when i get to bosses they struggle with damage a bit.
I meant zombies, not skeletons haha but you answered that too I guess.
If I'm running TV's what is the optimum setup? Also cheers for the speedy reply!
Bosses will get a bunch easier with SGs as your gems hit 20 and you add quality to them. Also, swap GMP for Slower Projectiles for the boss, that helps quite a bit.
For TVs you want to be running:
Raise Spectre / Minion Damage / Burning Damage / Elemental Focus / Swift Affliction / Chance to Ignite.
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Quite a few folks will run FO all the time, with a CWDT linked to Desecrate and BO for when it gets thick.
Interesting idea, I want to know is it reliable? If shaper hit u once took 80% hp, will u get the desecrate and BO up right next second? I always tho CWDT can only cast 1 spell at a time, if it can pop two skills at once I might change my set up.
Thanks for the replies guys I really appreciate it!
I recently tried SG for mapping and really like them. How viable are they for single target dps on bosses (as compared to TV)? I'm now split between investing in a helm for TV and running golems in chest, or just run SG in chest and use them for all content.
Last edited by Bibibabibu#2727 on Jan 22, 2018, 1:54:41 AM
Hello there ,
I have a question... In the screenshot i saw 180% increased minion life but i cant find how . I only got 85% atm. Please let me know if i'm doing something wrong
My summoner char named Plakomounaki
THX
Mine is only 47%, I wouldn't worry about it.
You've taken Spirit Eater instead of Commander of Darkness though. CoD is better, it has the same damage bonus and it grants additional resists for you and your minions for the cost of a level 1 clarity.
Hello and thx for the quick answer and for that great build. I took spirit eater cause i thought that gives +40% more damage than CoD as i use a lot bone offering. Let me know if dosent worth it.
Thx in advance
Thanks for the replies guys I really appreciate it!
I recently tried SG for mapping and really like them. How viable are they for single target dps on bosses (as compared to TV)? I'm now split between investing in a helm for TV and running golems in chest, or just run SG in chest and use them for all content.
They are decent for single target damage if you swap GMP for Slower Projectiles. Not as good as TVs, of course! TVs are still the highest single target damage minion available.
Well worth trying out IMO. Actually, I was running TVs and SGs in 3.0 and decided to try SGs... and I've never switched back. :D
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