[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Hey guys,
1st of all i love this build and i would like to marrie Natt.

2nd, im "complete" i did all game content (157/157) etc... now i'm lvl95 and want to bring this beauty to 100.
I'm running all t15/t16 (t16 i jump boss because i run with Sg and it would take too many time for animations/phases).

Any suggestion on equip change?

I know no one using my armour but seems like now im immortal more than cloak of defence.

Can't understand how to improve something but i know i could be better.
My english is a kick in your stomach i know, sorry for this.

Have a nice day!!!
Started a different spectres build and i want to change to this one.
What should i change on my gear?
What spectres should i run?

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Seemo_O wrote:
Hey guys,
1st of all i love this build and i would like to marrie Natt.

2nd, im "complete" i did all game content (157/157) etc... now i'm lvl95 and want to bring this beauty to 100.
I'm running all t15/t16 (t16 i jump boss because i run with Sg and it would take too many time for animations/phases).

Any suggestion on equip change?

I know no one using my armour but seems like now im immortal more than cloak of defence.

Can't understand how to improve something but i know i could be better.
My english is a kick in your stomach i know, sorry for this.

Have a nice day!!!
You've taken the Spirit Eater ascendancy. The only tag that counts towards your minions is the first one. Commander of Darkness gives you the same damage bonus, plus a cast speed buff that your SGs will use, and a nice resist boost, all for the price of an aura.

You could push for dual damage mod jewels... you have a bunch with affixes that don't affect minions, for example, 11% increased damage over time.

You could pick up a Scourge Claw as well, for a nice damage boost. You'd need a Rumi's flask to keep you at max block.

You could also switch for offensive curses instead of the defensive ones, for another damage boost.

Other than that, most of pushing for level 100 is running safe maps really, really fast.



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kanon1 wrote:
Started a different spectres build and i want to change to this one.
What should i change on my gear?
What spectres should i run?

Well, to start with it would be helpful if your characters weren't marked as private so we can check your tree / jewels. :)

Most of your gear is just fine. I'd want to find a Shaped Amulet with 36-40% of Block Chance applied to Spells, to pull your spell block up. You can get the same mod on shields if you would rather go that route.

For jewels, we want life / mana / spectre damage mods / maybe dex.

For Spectres, it depends on what you want to do. With your gear, you could run Solar Guards or Tukohama's Vanguards. SGs are great for clear speed, TVs are great for melting bosses. You could run a mixture, for that matter, 2 of each would probably clear maps and bosses rather well.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
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grimjack68 wrote:
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kanon1 wrote:
Started a different spectres build and i want to change to this one.
What should i change on my gear?
What spectres should i run?

Well, to start with it would be helpful if your characters weren't marked as private so we can check your tree / jewels. :)

Most of your gear is just fine. I'd want to find a Shaped Amulet with 36-40% of Block Chance applied to Spells, to pull your spell block up. You can get the same mod on shields if you would rather go that route.

For jewels, we want life / mana / spectre damage mods / maybe dex.

For Spectres, it depends on what you want to do. With your gear, you could run Solar Guards or Tukohama's Vanguards. SGs are great for clear speed, TVs are great for melting bosses. You could run a mixture, for that matter, 2 of each would probably clear maps and bosses rather well.


Should i replace this should to a rare shield?
If i want to do Uber Atziri and Shaper what should i do?

+ My profile is not private anymore.
Ok, that's better.

I'd absolutely replace either your amulet or your shield to get spell block.

Here's a starter search for amulets: http://poe.trade/search/hikukomusitodo

Here's a starter search for shields: http://poe.trade/search/igomonikiokito

You don't need both.

You should probably pick up a Rumi's flask as well to max your block.

For Uber Atziri, I'd absolutely bring along a Ruby flask. I'd suggest running Rise of the Phoenix for a shield as well.

Your jewels are set up for Solar Guard Spectres, so I'd start with those. For Uber Atziri, I'd buy some jewels for Tukohamas Vanguards and run those instead.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
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which spectres or maybe FG benefits from Immolate gem? and how
I have clear all content 157/157.
I really love this build. I run with 3 solar guards and 1 cannibal fire eater. It is strange that no one mention fire eaters. Its the second best melt down boss spectre and you dont need to change gems all the time. For shaper i try 4 eaters and the difference there is awesome. In all guardians i run 3 solar 1 eater. I can change to 3 eaters there but i dont find the reason lol. I really want to know other opinions about that. My account is open for all to inspect. Only one level 95 in abyss there you cant miss him.
I want any suggestions for the AG so he can help the dmg output of the solar/eaters spectres.
Again real nice spec.
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Imurgod wrote:
which spectres or maybe FG benefits from Immolate gem? and how


it works like this:
minion uses skill
skill hits enemy
if enemy is burning: add flat fire damage from imolate
if enemy is not burning: ignore flat fire damage from imolate


Works with any spectre that uses a skill which hits the enemies. Read the description on wiki of the skills used by special minions you might have in mind and then check said skills on wiki wether it hits or not.


hitting minions, which i saw most in the abyss league:
Flame Golems
Solar Guards
Flame Sentinels
Frost Sentinels


not hitting minions
Tukohama Vanguards (SR does not hit)
Wickermen (RF does not hit)


Is not that good of a skill compared to other supports. Especially as it only works under certain conditions. Just consider the map mod "monsters have xx% chance to avoid status ailment" (or whatever it is called) That is xx% chance to render imolate useless.
Check the guide for better alternatives
Last edited by haensel#3487 on Jan 18, 2018, 5:57:04 AM
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grimjack68 wrote:
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reagan247 wrote:


How do FGs not help against guardian? There are TONS of people who have downed Guardians with FGs...

Using
lets your Zombies & AG blind, while FGs & TVs/SGs do damage.
It's not a matter of help, it's a matter of degree. TVs do so much damage alone that the extra from FGs is, well, not insignificant, but not a huge factor.

Doing some rough back of the napkin calculations... Natt has a video posted where he drops Shaper from 50% to near death in 6 seconds. Shaper has over 20,000,000 life, and 40% resistance to fire, so that works out to ~2.5 million damage per second. This was also with only 3 TVs.

I pulled a vid from a full on Golemancer running a 6L fire golem setup and checked, and the FGs are doing 16% of shaper's health in 10 seconds. Some also quick math makes that ~480k damage per second.

Add in the lack of a 4th TV in Natt's video, plus the fact that we aren't actually Golemancers, and the gap is only going to get wider.

So, absolutely not insignificant damage from the FGs, however, the TVs are going to put out the lion's share of the damage.


I just went and watched that video, haha he did only have 3 up. That's awesome. Thanks for the little tidbit because I never even noticed that.

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