[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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OGrabbit wrote:

First time playing spectres, loving it so far!
I am currently working towards purchasing the golem jewels+a good helmet. What do I cut to make room for the golem setup? Also is it possible to run MF gear+golems or is this too greedy? :)

Not that I've done so, but if I were to run the 4TV + 3 FG setup, I'd imagine that swapping helmets would be quite clever. One being an Elder helmet with a 5L FG + Minion skill lvls setup, the other being Skullhead with the AG setup. You don't need the AG for clearing and you don't need the FGs for bosses.

Regarding MF, well, you can always add a Bisco's amulet if you have the funds and your remaining rares are good enough to cover life, resists and dex. Long grind to make the cost back though ;)

I wouldn't bother with those low % quantity uniques.

@grimjack:
Can't you find someone with Vorici 8 to fix your Vis Mortis colors? I'm afraid wiwigvn is right about Point Blank being useless. I'd help but my Vorici is 6 due to not playing much lately and his missions being ludicrous with Spectres.

I really dont like AG, yesterday i was doing rare t14 Acid Like map. And last boss was doing some kind of spell which caused that my guardian, flame golems, zombies and 3 of 4 spectres (vanguards, the 4th is wickerman) were basically deleted under 1 second.

Guardian was sloted in Advancing Fortress, so with fortify, minion life (20) and empower (2). AG also was wearing 2x dyadus, victarios flight - and rest of equip was rare armour with life and resists (tooltip said 30k life).

2nd time when he died and i really dont like buing stuff for him.

Right now I'm level 76 with this build using Enfeeble, but what curses are you guys using?

Newbie question: Why Unending Hunger jewel is not used? Looks good to me.

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vildsix wrote:

I really dont like AG, yesterday i was doing rare t14 Acid Like map. And last boss was doing some kind of spell which caused that my guardian, flame golems, zombies and 3 of 4 spectres (vanguards, the 4th is wickerman) were basically deleted under 1 second.

Guardian was sloted in Advancing Fortress, so with fortify, minion life (20) and empower (2). AG also was wearing 2x dyadus, victarios flight - and rest of equip was rare armour with life and resists (tooltip said 30k life).

2nd time when he died and i really dont like buing stuff for him.

Do a Obas, or get a portal tome someones finished t16 or shaper run for Specters. I havn't had my Specters die once.
And I wouldn't bother with setting up AG unless he's 21 and you got Empower lvl 3 ( or 4), preferably in a +2 minion level helm.

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trouba wrote:

Newbie question: Why Unending Hunger jewel is not used? Looks good to me.

To expand on Truba's question. If running 4 x SG and using the jewel, is it best to use one or two of them?

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trouba wrote:

Newbie question: Why Unending Hunger jewel is not used? Looks good to me.

Since it does not scale well with TV. TV does DOT burning fire damage so you mostly scale them based on that. In addition, TV is a very poor clearspeed choice and Unending Hunger is mainly for clearspeed, so...

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Skua99 wrote:

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trouba wrote:

Newbie question: Why Unending Hunger jewel is not used? Looks good to me.

To expand on Truba's question. If running 4 x SG and using the jewel, is it best to use one or two of them?

Personally, I think one is enough for SG since I run... none and still feel cool with their absurd clearspeed. Maybe you can run 2 to increase the effect in boss fights with adds, but I am more inclined towards abyss jewels in such case.

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Skua99 wrote:

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trouba wrote:

Newbie question: Why Unending Hunger jewel is not used? Looks good to me.

To expand on Truba's question. If running 4 x SG and using the jewel, is it best to use one or two of them?

I've done plenty of maps while testing either 1 or 2 UH's and the 2nd one is not necessary. At least for me.

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JumberPresen wrote:

I killed Shaper yesterday, first time ever, with my 4xSG setup.
The build works pretty fine, but my AG died in the first Shaper encounter. He died in a minute or so, even using Skullhead and using lvl 20 AG with minion life lvl 20 + empower lvl 3.

Also have a +2 minion level bone helmet, but seems more squishy with this setup. (Whitout the %regen and block from skull...)

So how do you manage guys to survive your AG in these hard bosses?

Am I doing something wrong?

For shaper it's all about using Convocation at the right time, namely: 1) To get them away from beam, and 2) get them in Zana's circle during bullet hell + making sure to not forget to having bone offering up especially during that phase.

My AG gem is level 24 slotted in with minion life and he has more than enough health to allow me leeway to use convocation when needed.

For Uber Aztiri, I honestly don't even try. 2 unlucky turbo Flame Blasts from her and its potentially lights out for any minion other than Elementalist Golems. Even my spectres die to her occasionally so I don't bother with AG.

Passing on what im currently running in abyss. 4 tv, 3 Flame Golem, 8 zombies. The golems pickup the clear speed quite a bit. Not as fast as sg's but way better than 4 tv's alone. Zombies are just a damage soak.

Started having issues 14 plus with some bosses and higher level abyss encounters on the sg's. Even lost all 4 on one of the warlords.

TV's... well thats a whole other story. Bosses and abyss encounters are cake.

Here is my load out... Also running anima, primordial might and 2 harmony's