[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

Great build. Simple to play and very cheap to build. Kills everything in game. Using 3 TV and 1 WM.

Do we have any opinions on the hybrid SG + TV vs. Traditional 3TV + 1WM?

I'm at a point where I am soon to choose between them and I can't decide!

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Excoundrel wrote:

Do we have any opinions on the hybrid SG + TV vs. Traditional 3TV + 1WM?

I'm at a point where I am soon to choose between them and I can't decide!

Traditional 3TV + 1WM doesn't deserve any recognition right now. Way too slow, even if you want to kill a boss - you need to reach him first. You will lose much more time, than you can save by damage on exact boss.

I still think that optimal variant is - golems. Never tried SG + TV, and definitely never ever try. If i ever let go of my golems, then i will definitely completely go into SG route, and with all that dedication to their cast speed and added damage, their boss killing power will not fall short to half assed SG+TV.

I understand that people saying that it's "usable", but it doesn't mean that it's "efficient". It's like having 2 dedicated 6-link that both have 50% LESS damage multiplier.
Nah, 4 dedicated SG will exceed that point not only in map clearing, but in boss damage too.

What Spectre setup would you guys recommend if my only goal was harder bosses? I don't care that much about map clear speed as long as it's not absolute dog shit, but I definitely want to optimize for Shaper, Elder and that sort of thing. I play hardcore if that matters.

By the way, i saw some variation of burning spectre, when wickerman was changed into your own RF.

New bloodbond unique chest made it possible, and possibly quite strong.

I'm actually quite hyped about this variation :)

Would it be a good strategy to get an Anvil with +1 Curse and then a shield with spellblock to max block?

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Excoundrel wrote:

Do we have any opinions on the hybrid SG + TV vs. Traditional 3TV + 1WM?

I'm at a point where I am soon to choose between them and I can't decide!

do not mix.

so use SG only or TV+WM+FG.

flame golems kill trash good anough. TV kill boss perfectly.

but i`m not like to run*kill*run gameplay like flaskwanders, so smoothywalk builds for me better.

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Korrikalari wrote:

Would it be a good strategy to get an Anvil with +1 Curse and then a shield with spellblock to max block?

if you get fine resist - yepp.

I am currently trying this build on the Abyss league, and what i really like about it is how easily affordable most key items during leveling are.

Before i do get into detail where my problems are, i want you to understand that i am still a very new player to this game (i think i will still consider myself a new player even after 2 or 3 months of playtime cause there is so much to discover.). So, i will most probably not use the proper terms cause i simply dont know them. here comes:

I am about mid level 30s now. most skills are not available ingame due to the quests not being available at the time i reach them. So, i got spectres at level 34, even though they are 28 skills, simply cause i didnt finish the quest earlier. That is ONE of my problems.
The next problem i have: i try to follow your skill suggestions you post in the leveling part, BUT: it is so many. By level 34 i got :
Zombies.
SRS.
Skeletons on totem.
Aura (Hatred).
Desecration.
I didnt even put Bone offering and spirit offering into my skill rotation simply cause there is no ROOM for it.
And now spectres?? How am i supposed to rotate all that?
Am i supposed to drop skills? There is simply no free room in my skill slots.
HELP!!

My problems/questions :

1) My spectres get rect easily in maps. Have like same/better gear (mostly jewls) and they still die. I have not found yet lvl 80 spectres but level 45 ones die in a big pack.

Are the higher level spectres the same defensive wise ??

2) About scourge claw, it says "70% increased Minion Damage if you have Hit Recently" . Does this count with hits from an arc/ball lightning skill ? How about a trisula dagger (implicit block) crafted with an Deafening Essence of Fear ? It will provide some block and half damage bonus but reliably all the time.

3) Are zombies prefered over flame golems for guardian/shaper kills ? The extra commitment is the 5-6 jewels but aint that worth it ?