[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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Imurgod wrote:

I was saying if you dont care about other mods...you just explained to us that you dont want to change gloves,shield,rings due to this and that. if you lack of dex you need to sacrifice a point or two for dex nodes, if you need mana and life you can't cling to something just because it has perfect 1 mod, if you need good all around gears, sacrifices must be made.

I don't think you've read my post correctly. That's not how the affixes work - dex and res are suffixes, while mana is a prefix. What I'm trying to explain here is that even if we go with T1 mana on slots where it can be obtained, it doesn't seem that you'll be able to keep the 7:3 ratio with high-end amounts of life.

The maximum possible amount of mana on various slots has nothing to do with sacrifices.

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LaplaceNoMa wrote:

The higher my HP gets, the harder it is to keep up with the 7:3 life:mana ratio. Even took another mana% wheel, and still not enough. Considered going with lvl1 clarity, but I guess radius becomes an issue then. How are you guys getting 3k+ unreserved mana with 7k+ life?

Play around with your jewels. Switch max life for max mana, and those jewels are dirt cheap. If you can find a good ring with 50 plus dex and decent life/mana/resist you should be set. You only need 113 dex to equip scourge claw. Don't forget there are jewels that give dex too.

I think the 70-30 is just a guideline, that optimizes your life to mana efficiency that is probably more important at lower gear levels. At your gear level, any addition to your eHP is a good thing as its extremely hard to come by. Although at this point I don't care about survivability at all. Everything dies so fast it doesn't matter anyway.

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Cristil66 wrote:

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LaplaceNoMa wrote:

The higher my HP gets, the harder it is to keep up with the 7:3 life:mana ratio. Even took another mana% wheel, and still not enough. Considered going with lvl1 clarity, but I guess radius becomes an issue then. How are you guys getting 3k+ unreserved mana with 7k+ life?

Play around with your jewels. Switch max life for max mana, and those jewels are dirt cheap. If you can find a good ring with 50 plus dex and decent life/mana/resist you should be set. You only need 113 dex to equip scourge claw. Don't forget there are jewels that give dex too.

I think the 70-30 is just a guideline, that optimizes your life to mana efficiency that is probably more important at lower gear levels. At your gear level, any addition to your eHP is a good thing as its extremely hard to come by. Although at this point I don't care about survivability at all. Everything dies so fast it doesn't matter anyway.

Yeah, I thought about jewels. Unfortunately, I'm not that confident in my ability to use PoB yet, but the question is simple: considering the amount of life on our gear, the amount of +% life in our tree, what would give theoretically higher end EHP - 117 life gloves without mana, or T1 life and T1 mana? Same with jewels - would the trick you've suggested end up giving more actual EHP (with the inconvenience of sometimes going OOM) than if we simply forget about the 7:3 ratio? Those questions are bugging me to no end, I'm the type of person/player who just can't sit calmly on his ass unless everything's accounted for and perfect :\

But I guess right now the best thing would be to simply play around with PoB a bit more and find the answers for my particular character there. And, well, my right ring needs replacement anyway... Less dex, more mana, should be a lot better (not like it matters this late in the league, but I hope to prepare for fun times in HoGM and Chayula's Domain as best as I could, since those things are the only milestones I personally haven't achieved with this build yet)

Hydra vs Raise Spectre full run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrg_uw16wPI

Forgot the right answer for this again...does ignite duration/ignite chance/burning damage etc on jewels benefits our spectres at all? most likely no?

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DEM0ON wrote:

TY for nice build, its so nice for all content in the game!
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What's ur setup for AG?
They (Zombie and AG) not die on Guard/Shaper?
And how u get those nice jewel? )) just buy or alter/chaos spam?

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Imurgod wrote:

Forgot the right answer for this again...does ignite duration/ignite chance/burning damage etc on jewels benefits our spectres at all? most likely no?

No, this doesn't help our minions at all.

Hey I am running something like your build with few differences.
1) I gone due curse 1 green (projectile weakness/temp chains), one blue (enfeeble/flammi) with 30% eff on tree, 18 from dying breath, 10 from gems
2) Wanted to run haste + some other aura so I gone hybrid life/es (7k life 3k es - kinda same) instead of mom
3) I am using 2 solar/2cannibal instead of tv/wm because of faster pack-clear.

Build is great and I am enjoing it quite a lot but I don't know what 6 link to use in that hybrid setup of specters.
spectre-echo-md-elem focus-gmp-pierce
spectre-echo-md-elem focus-gmp-controled destruction + projectile weakness curse (because of high dex requirement i can use 13-15lvl max so that's a big minus)
or something other? I generally switch gmp for slower projectiles on bosses

What's your thoughts as more experienced necro player :)?

my pastebin https://pastebin.com/cgVwPHxh

I need to switch up some items to get rid of this dex gem but it should be easy :)

Finally I can kill Shaper & 4 guardians.Thanks for your build.But I have a small problem.I use 4 jewel with dual mod : minion res & minion life. When I go Shaper, Spec die and I have to summon again. What can I do to solve this problem??

You are missing Minion Life/Resistance in your Spectre setup.