[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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N4Z wrote:
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OniAkumaYubokumin wrote:
Why 3 Tukohama + 1 Wicker Man and not 4 wicker man? I dunno why, but I feel that the vanguards have very low clear speed.

This specter's selection is only for boss killing and not for map clear.
For map clear, You need 4 x Solar Guard or Frost / Flame Sentinel or 3 x Wicker man with Increase AOE instead of Minion/Totem resists and 1x TV.

Thanks for answering.
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Natt wrote:
It seems counter intuitive, but duration-tagged supports have been tested a fair bit with Wicker Men and appear to work. This is based on quite good data. I'll dig up my findings. The standing tin-foil hat theory is that spectres have a hidden duration tag.

Edit: Did some new tests just to be safe. 1 x lvl 65 Wicker Man vs. Avarius Reassembled (65), no AG, Lvl 19 Q15 Swift Affliction:

Swift Affliction: (3 runs: 15.33 s, 14.68 s, 14.98 s) AVG 15.00 +/- 0.33 s
No Support Gem: (3 runs: 20.36 s, 18.73 s, 19.82 s) AVG 19.64 +/- 0.83 s



thank you! so ill switch chance to ignite to SA
Just respeced my Firestorm Ele last night to this build and it is actually scary how easy it was to Uberlab at level 73. Spent exactly 100c on the whole build (+3-4c for AG) and I'm at 5.1k HP. Could have saved 10c if I didn't annul the HP off of my original belt.

I breezed through the entire lab, with the only speed bump being the chopping block traps that was mentioned in the OP which killed 2 of my L82 Wicker Men. Besides that, everything was easy. I never felt truly in danger, and none of my other builds before this made me feel that way. I love to uberlab, so this build is an A+ for me so far, and it's the frontrunner for my starter build next league with how cheap it was.
Hey guys, any opinion on where to start saving for next? I was thinking about aiming for a 5-6 link Vis to replace my Cloak (though not 100% sure yet? As a hardcore player the extra survivability of Cloak is hard to pass up, but the extra Spectre seems pretty clutch for later bosses), and a Scourge to replace my Advancing fortress once I finish uber lab.

Also, what's the consensuses of Animate Guardian? I have a pretty nice +2 minion helm in my stash, and been leveling up a AG, Minion Life, Fortify and Melee Splash in my second gear slot in case I decide to go for it, but have never messed around with it before. Seems like it would be crazy good though.

Last edited by llamaegg#2452 on Oct 20, 2017, 9:52:35 PM
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llamaegg wrote:
Hey guys, any opinion on where to start saving for next? I was thinking about aiming for a 5-6 link Vis to replace my Cloak (though not 100% sure yet? As a hardcore player the extra survivability of Cloak is hard to pass up, but the extra Spectre seems pretty clutch for later bosses), and a Scourge to replace my Advancing fortress once I finish uber lab.

Also, what's the consensuses of Animate Guardian? I have a pretty nice +2 minion helm in my stash, and been leveling up a AG, Minion Life, Fortify and Melee Splash in my second gear slot in case I decide to go for it, but have never messed around with it before. Seems like it would be crazy good though.

Gloves with a free affix for the Catarina minion damage craft, and a Rumi's flask for extra block would be my suggestions, especially if you are going to drop the Advancing Fortress.

AG make such a massive difference in damage output, I'd bring him along for sure. Doesn't matter for mobs, but anything that can survive for a while, bosses, guardians, etc, it's well worthwhile. I'd swap the Fortify for a level 3 Empower, though. 4% more health vs 20% damage reduction, but only on damage that hits - no effect on DOT.
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Best enchant for this ring? Currently have 117 Dex, 100% Fire res, 96% Cold res, 100% Lightning res, then a 5100/1900 HP to mana ratio. Should I just go for the res overcap? More mana? Or even one of the offensive enchants?

On that same vein, if I overcap, is there a point to keeping the elemental res flasks? Should I swap them to something else, and if so what should I swap them to?
Who has the best gear combo for the animate guardian please?...
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pacotacobell wrote:

Best enchant for this ring? Currently have 117 Dex, 100% Fire res, 96% Cold res, 100% Lightning res, then a 5100/1900 HP to mana ratio. Should I just go for the res overcap? More mana? Or even one of the offensive enchants?

On that same vein, if I overcap, is there a point to keeping the elemental res flasks? Should I swap them to something else, and if so what should I swap them to?
I'd go for extra mana. If you get hit hard, it's nice to have some spare mana to use to flee. :)
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yissus wrote:
Who has the best gear combo for the animate guardian please?...
From IchiMorghulis quite a few pages back, I've been using his suggested setup for quite a while, and it's pretty awesome.

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IchiMorghulis wrote:
AG-Minion Life-Melee Splash, equipped with Dual Dyadus, BoR, Icetomb, Rainbowstride, and a pair of rare glove with very high fire and lightning resist and some life.

The clear speed is a little bit better but clear speed for these specters are limited by their AI, their range, and minion speed. Against Harbingers, the clear speed is noticeably faster. Where this setup really shines is against bosses. The bosses melts 50% to 100% faster than without the AG. (I have done T16 bosses with this setup but not yet tried shaper, so I don't know if not having Fortify will hurt the AG)
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grimjack68 wrote:
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yissus wrote:
Who has the best gear combo for the animate guardian please?...
From IchiMorghulis quite a few pages back, I've been using his suggested setup for quite a while, and it's pretty awesome.

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IchiMorghulis wrote:
AG-Minion Life-Melee Splash, equipped with Dual Dyadus, BoR, Icetomb, Rainbowstride, and a pair of rare glove with very high fire and lightning resist and some life.

The clear speed is a little bit better but clear speed for these specters are limited by their AI, their range, and minion speed. Against Harbingers, the clear speed is noticeably faster. Where this setup really shines is against bosses. The bosses melts 50% to 100% faster than without the AG. (I have done T16 bosses with this setup but not yet tried shaper, so I don't know if not having Fortify will hurt the AG)


1) If my Empower is only lvl 2 with +1 level bonus to AG and I summon AG now- will the AG gets the +2 level bonus, when Empower reaches lvl 3?

2) You can switch melee splash for Fortify for shaper?

AG - Minion Life - Empower - X (Fortify / additional accuracy / Melee Splash)

Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that Additional Accuracy support is needed for Shaper, but dunno for now

3) BoR on AG is working with a chest armor?

Icetomb is more the offensive part, are there any other options for more survivability?
Last edited by Atum84#0319 on Oct 21, 2017, 3:27:05 AM

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