[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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shotcaller77 wrote:

Just out of curiosity and sheer laziness, is there any way to save different spectre setups? I’m reallly guessing no but the spectres aren’t “saved” in the gem itself?

I mean how sweet wouldn’t it be to have one boss setup and one clear setup...

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shotcaller77 wrote:

Just out of curiosity and sheer laziness, is there any way to save different spectre setups? I’m reallly guessing no but the spectres aren’t “saved” in the gem itself?

I mean how sweet wouldn’t it be to have one boss setup and one clear setup...

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grimjack68 wrote:

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Kellog wrote:

It's been a long time since I played Summoner, however, like many others, with all the new changes, I thought I'd go again.

That said, I'm a little confused about the level of my Specters. Hopefully, someone can clarify.

Scenario: I respected an old Witch (currently level 88) and I'm in the process of leveling Jewels.

1. Raise Specter - Level 14/Q20
2. Desecrate - Level 18/Q20
3. Hideout Master Level 8
4. Get a Wicker Man from Ravaged Square (L64)
5. Get Tukohama's Vanguard from The Coast (L45)

Questions:

1. If I summon the aforementioned Specters in my Hideout, what level will they be?
2. If I go to a higher level map, say Level 80, and summon, what level will these Specters be?
3. After logging out and back in, what level will the Specters be?
3. Is there a way to see the level of a Summoned being?

Thanks.

1. If you summon these in your HO, they will be level 60 - the level of your HO.
2. If you summon in higher level maps, they will be either the map level, or the level your Desecrate can create, or the level your Raise Spectre gem can raise... whichever is lower.
3. After you log back out and back in, the spectres will be the same level they were when you logged out.
4. No. /me grumbles.

The main differences now are:
- They will persist through logout.
- They will not downscale to the level of the map you are in... so, if you desecrate and raise in t17, shaper's realm, then go clear a Dungeon map, your specters will still be level 84. If, however, one of them died, and you cast desecrate and raise in the dungeon map, the resulting spectre would only be level 71.

PS: You have two point 3s. :)

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wiwigvn wrote:

Originally I thought we can switch setup in a map, but I found that it is still heavily RNG-based and cumbersome, for example, it may take 10 minutes to get TV/WM in Shaper's Realm due to the size of desecrate table there.

So, take care if you plan to switch around different spectres. I decide that I'll stick to one setup for a long time, e.g. SG if I'm mapping for a long while, TV if I'm farming bosses for a long while.

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shotcaller77 wrote:

Just out of curiosity and sheer laziness, is there any way to save different spectre setups? I’m reallly guessing no but the spectres aren’t “saved” in the gem itself?

I mean how sweet wouldn’t it be to have one boss setup and one clear setup...

You can't switch easily in one map as mentioned above. However, I think 4 Solar Guards can use the same color chest with 4 TV/WM: RS - Minion Damage - Elemental Focus - Minion Resistance (switched [Spell Echo] for Solar) - Burning Damage (switched [Fire Pen] for Solar) - Swift Affliction (switched [GMP/Slower Projectile] for Solar)

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Kellog wrote:

As I only have a 5 link Vis currently, what would be the better link configuration for switching between SG and TV/WM?

I currently drop Swift Affliction but doing so means I lose a green socket, which is obviously needed for Solar Guards configuration.

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wiwigvn wrote:

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Kellog wrote:

As I only have a 5 link Vis currently, what would be the better link configuration for switching between SG and TV/WM?

I currently drop Swift Affliction but doing so means I lose a green socket, which is obviously needed for Solar Guards configuration.

Just re-color your chest. 3B-1R-1G is best dps 5L for TV/WM anyway. Just throw away the minion resistance gem, TV/WM is tanky enough without it, and from what I understand, SG is the same, too.

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Exelice wrote:

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kevel55 wrote:

Hey does swift affliction work with these?

It's work only for Takohama's vanguard totems, RF doesnt have Duration tag.
Both summons get bonuses from Burn dmg/Minion dmg/Ele focus/Chance to ignite (29% only + quality). Another gems only for boost one spectre (conc/aoe for RF, Con destr/efficacy/swift for SR totems)