Energy Shield and Life

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Solkan88 wrote:

Guys I've got a very important question.

Will I be able to remove this crafted mod in 3.0 and replace it with better Haku +45, or would that destroy my legacy hybrid %ES mod?

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Toliman wrote:

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Archangel223 wrote:

TL:DR, game should promote versatility and reward creativity not OP meta domination for years at a time.

at risk of sounding like a smartass but

Dont take from the rich just because they are rich.
Dont nerf the best builds in the game for no other reason that they are the best.

Its great that there are faceroll builds and let people enjoy them, provided they require an investment proportional to their power!

That's the point.

Don't follow this and you have nerf culture and a game where everything feels gimped down and mediocre.

Edit: I do agree though that it is great to have build diversity and PoE should provided it. Not through nerfs though, and heavy handed interference with the status quo.

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Then GGG should buff life or nerf one shots. This nerf hammer will make most non legacy ES builds worse than current life builds. They're essentially nerfing like 45% of all builds because of a few ES outliers like howa, BV BF.
It's too heavy handed. I'd love it if they buffed life. I've been theory crafting two which i really want to try in 3.0 and I'd love to break 10k life on a EA pathfinder.

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waskely wrote:

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Solkan88 wrote:

Guys I've got a very important question.

Will I be able to remove this crafted mod in 3.0 and replace it with better Haku +45, or would that destroy my legacy hybrid %ES mod?

removing a crafted mod doesn't reroll the item, to nerf the hat you would have to divine it...

side note, why dont you use an exalted on it instead

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Archangel223 wrote:

Continuing on your analogy of rich vs the poor, How would you feel if you went to the store and milk cost 100 dollars? Bread was 200 dollars? The rich could still handle this but how could a normal person handle such a thing?

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I don't actually didn't think ES needed much nerfing outside of giving them Vaal pact. However, It must be frustrating for them to watch statistics of the same shit every league with 90% of builds re-rolling to ES.

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Mfer wrote:

Wow this sucks... should have just buffed life

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Archangel223 wrote:

I mean, The data speaks for itself really, While there are some life builds out there that can speedrun all guardians, shaper, Ubers, and maps with any mods the overwhelming majority of Life builds can't. In fact you would be hard pressed to find an affordable life build that can do all content in the game safely. Keyword in that sentence is affordable.

As mentioned in the notes and anyone playing this game long enough has noticed, The good ES rolled gear costs several EXs while pretty decent gear for a life build is often 1/10th of that so in the beginning or if you're not rich it makes more sense to be a life based build.

However, when it comes to taking on the end game content it's impossible to do on an affordable HP build. Again I use the word affordable. Most new players or new league starters won't be running around with gear worth more than 1 or 2 ex by the time they reach 80s(unless they get lucky). Those HP shaper speed runs that were posted for example. Estimated price of all gear in those vids is somewhere between 55-120ex.

If you can get this kind of currency then yeah HP can be made viable, still may die to a rock falling from the sky but yeah...you can do most content and be relatively safe as long as you use a select few builds.

So why aren't their more HP builds clearing all content and reaching the max level/end game?

"They suck, git gud!"

I hear you, however we're the correct phrase would be "get better" in this case. It's all about optimization. As someone mentioned a 10k+ RF HP build can clear a lot of the content in the game and be pretty comfortable. but a RF ES Build can do the same thing and do it better, especially with a Guardian support you can get a 45k RF ES build running around doing 4 times the amount of DPS as an HP RF build.

My point here is, If you're going to be spending money to build an expensive character you might as well build the best possible version of that character. And aside from a select few Marauder/Duelist builds it's simply safer and more optimal to be ES, especially CI/ES because of a free immunity to chaos(something that often plagues HP builds, especially in PVP).

anyone else notice there are no HP supports?, nothing in the game buffs HP, there is no discipline equivalent for HP builds, There are no Unique jewels that convert ES in the area to HP. You can still be 1-shot as a tanky HP build with 6-7k life and 10 endurance charges. 90% of end game builds have been ES builds for the past 1-2 years. Clearly something's wrong with the balance and some extreme measures must be taken at least in the BETA testing.


I don't believe all of these changes will hold up in 3.0, I do think it's worth testing some of these changes, If it turns out to be too much(I suspect it might) then slight buffs will be sure to come in 3.0.

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bhavv wrote:

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Samyaza wrote:

People here don't realize it's just beta Kappa

People also dont realise that beta, and even planned changes are done to get feedback and research.