Energy Shield and Life

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loardpcm wrote:

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Frankthetank2688 wrote:

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cmac89 wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWt5PlHSy30 sure es isnt OP or anything LOL.

Exactly. Thank you for the video reference of how OP that garbage was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAcDdlje-S8

So this is not OP?

well said

Balance is an illusion exile

If the changes go live as is, I don't think many people will play es builds. And let's stop pretending like you could faceroll content only with es builds, there are plenty of life builds that trvialize end game content. Meta runners will also not be affected, because they will just play a new faceroll everything meta build (and obviously people will start complaining about that as well). Right now it just seems like es will be in a worse position than life is currently, which is sad. I mean, balance changes should encourage build variety, not the other way around, right?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAcDdlje-S8

So this is not OP?

"NERF NERF NERF. See, all Life builds are OP. There is the proof...."

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That is how people think that say ES needed that massive nerf.

NERF NERF NERF


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6Xol4j_5PM

More life builds face tanking shaper

You both seem to be missing the fact that in each video it's not life that is causing the issue at all it's the Flasks combined with blade flurry. That skill can scale damage into the hundreds of millions with the right gear and flask effectiveness. I suspect something about that will also be changed.

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Archangel223 wrote:

You both seem to be missing the fact that in each video it's not life that is causing the issue at all it's the Flasks combined with blade flurry. That skill can scale damage into the hundreds of millions with the right gear and flask effectiveness. I suspect something about that will also be changed.

its still a life oriented build and clearly not ES

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Marinxar wrote:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAcDdlje-S8

So this is not OP?

"NERF NERF NERF. See, all Life builds are OP. There is the proof...."

^

That is how people think that say ES needed that massive nerf.

show me a life build that can afk shaper and NOT die lul scrubs

I'm just a casual player with not too much experience but it seems to me that the way these changes are made is implemented very badly.

Wouldn't it be a lot more balanced/simple to maybe reduce the buff to ES from Int? or removing the hybrid mod from armor?
Basically what I'm saying is that similar results or balance in general can be achieved with a much simpler and cleaner way.


Also.. ES is not exactly a replacement for life pull as by using it you also remove armor/evasion most of the time if you actually want a big ES pool (and sacrificing other sorts of damage mitigation) which means you take a lot more damage than life based builds, so it obviously have to be higher than life.

What about bow based builds that can't use ES shield? These changes seems to affect these builds a lot more than ones that use shields. should maybe add a jewel that makes dex bonus to evasion in range to apply to ES instead

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Archangel223 wrote:

You both seem to be missing the fact that in each video it's not life that is causing the issue at all it's the Flasks combined with blade flurry. That skill can scale damage into the hundreds of millions with the right gear and flask effectiveness. I suspect something about that will also be changed.

Perhaps you should look up things first.

There are countless life builds, from RF to Cyclone and everything in between, racing for the quickest Shaper kills.

So ES trivialising end-game ? It seems more like Life builds are.