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Sadhu wrote:
nice idea, nice patch
and now u can rename game from path of exile -> path of patch
u destroy one mechanics and dont create something new, this is bad way
i play few years and i cannot say what i get some cool item and there dont be nerfed it is not fair
Lay off the weed bro. The Pantheon System, which will boost players defenses, is new.
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Posted byTorayuu#4040on May 18, 2017, 3:11:10 PM
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People here don't realize it's just beta Kappa
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Posted bySamyaza#1186on May 18, 2017, 3:11:27 PM
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valhaal wrote:
Any life based build needs additional mitigation...
They are the only freaking good mechanics you got left in this game.
Don't give them ideas...
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Posted byaryosgr#3381on May 18, 2017, 3:12:47 PM
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Samyaza wrote:
People here don't realize it's just beta Kappa
People also dont realise that beta, and even planned changes are done to get feedback and research.
(b) Personal abuse, foul language, inappropriate subject matter, obscene, harassing, threatening, hateful, or discriminatory or defamatory remarks of any nature ... are not permitted.
- PoE TOS.
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Posted bybhavv#7360on May 18, 2017, 3:13:18 PM
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bhavv wrote:
No they wont. People will change to facetanking with life builds now.
Anyway if you build a full tank character, say juggernaut or gladiatior, why shouldnt you be able to facetank?
You can't facetank with a life build if you can't play the game with a life build.
If you have a life build, before you even enter a red map, your character is dead. : >
I mean life builds are totally OK for Dried Lake Normal, sure. But not for maps.
Are you fucking serious?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6WnOV68V4Ks
Explain whats happening in that video to me then.
Fucking hell even I can facetank in maps with life and Im shit at this game:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eu7YHsORHRs
Yeah this guy is ignorant. A cursory search for "shaper" in marauder forums will find dozens of life builds doing end game. Life is fine. Shouldnt even be buffed.
These ES changes are a little heavy handed. People should not panic though because its just beta. I can see them being scaled back because if not everyone will just play life which supposedly cant do anything lol
Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep#3474 on May 18, 2017, 3:18:11 PM
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Posted byAim_Deep#3474on May 18, 2017, 3:13:20 PM
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NemesoK wrote:
Life builds are very powerful.
Yes, if by Power you mean Damage.
But with 5k life and no chaos immunity, survivability on red maps = -100.
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Don't you think that it's not exactly okay if the only viable choice to play the game would be builds with "tank" in their names?
Yes, you can get huge effective hp with life, provided you took every single life node and every best life item in the game, Thanks for a valuable insight.
Don't make global rule with 2 examples. Have you looked for all the Marauder builds that can tank the endgame in the forum ?
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Posted byNemesoK#6318on May 18, 2017, 3:18:02 PM
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eWlu wrote:
This is great news because now ggg wont balance hard content around 25k es builds instead more builds will be viable for endgame.
Except they never even did balance the game around 25k ES builds, it just happened to be possible for 0.00001% of the player base to get that much ES.
They made endgame dmg insanely high because they wanted even those with insanely high es to be able to die and that means a lot of builds that arent those high es builds get either one shot or just cant sustain the dmg they take.
Same case with too much dmg on some builds, because of those builds they increased endgame content life to insane levels making it so that a lot of other builds aren't even able to do it.
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Posted byeWlu#1032on May 18, 2017, 3:18:30 PM
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xantonin wrote:
This just in... PoE Devs watch YouTube videos of top tier players, and decide to make the game harder for the remainder 99% of gamers.
Literally this. "Hey that full-mirrored guy trivialised our content! Lets destroy the players whose entire build costs less than some rich guy's Enlighten 4!"
Maybe one day GGG will realize we don't like Labyrinth. ha.
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Posted bycoolchrisTV#7671on May 18, 2017, 3:19:40 PM
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Tzaina wrote:
Ok, so those 25k ES builds you are talking about, I would like to see one of those beeing valid.
We´ve seen some few builds like this over the years, with mirror worthy gear, that i´ll give you.
But the problem aint there, if i Mirror things, i sure deserve to be overly insanly overpowerd compared to some avarage Joe.
Besides, i bet my left nut on the fact that 98% of those "25k++ ES builds" you are talking about, WERE ALL GUARDIANS AND/OR HAD A GUARDIAN WITH THEM.
I do agree that ES was an easy choise for most builds, and how easy it is to obtain ES compared to life right now is awfull.
But nerfing it to the grounds just proves the old point: That you people have no idéa on how to balance for jack s)=#".
Goodbye beloved low life builds. You will all be missed.
Sincerly.
Fuck you.
You are wrong (tho a guardian does get more ES if i remember right)
GGG should make a test char and show us (you)
I have a guardian build on PoB with 44k (think its 34k without vaal dis) ES with 100k BV dps (well skills and shit got nerfed/whatever so idk now)
It was a witch but i switched to guardian for more es... tho it was higher then 30k even as a witch
Does this build need perfect items? sure but even with perfect items on a life build you will never hit even hit 20k life so in the end its still better but over double the amount
Also to get to these levels of life/es you almost have no damage other then from the skill itself so both get fucked over in that regard
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