Energy Shield and Life

Path of Exile=diablo 3 = RIP
From playing life vs energy shield, I believe this is justified, its a joke to get as much es as I want vs getting life right now. I just wish there were more life buffs. I can easily get over 7k energy shield without even foresight or unnatural calm which are some of the juiciest es nodes on the tree, but god forbid I skip the scion wheel! My character is using an incandescent heart btw, thats a 359 energy shield body armor (but wait theres more!) im also using a crown of eyes, 245 energy shield, globes are 200, shield is 380, oots are 180, My rings and amulet all do not have %increased energy shield crafted on them. If I were to min max my character, I can easily go up to 14k energy shield while maintaining the same items but increasing my es pool by grabbing more nodes on the tree and crafting % es on said items. (i've squeezed over 8k life and 11k es on some of my builds, and the difficulty is huge)
I guess we will see how this works, but I have to say it sounds like a big nerf just because a small number of people have stupidly expensive gear. Why not just buff HP builds a bit?
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Ygidua wrote:
While I can somehow understand the change, are the Dev´s even aware of the fact, that not even 1% of the players has those 25k ES chars?

My highest ES is around 7-8k, if I now look at the changes I will sit at 5k max. How is this supposed to be playable?

It seems to me as GGG balances the game around a few nerds with unlimited time that can exploit the system, while they forget all the Casuals who are the majority of their clients. By taking so much value from ES items, you completely kill ES for anyone who is not the rooster at the farm.

At no time did I achieve anything like those numbers you try to justify that nerf with, yet I will suffer most under it, just like everyone else who does have a RL and not insane items bought at external websites.

You should have buffed life or fixed the one shot mechanics in your game, instead you might have made ES unplayable for casuals in future. :(


When will devs learn to not balance their games on minorities, but the majorities... *sigh*



majority of players were haveing 10k+es at least.if ur highes es was around 7-8k ur build was completly fail sory to say this.

now yea its not 25k es but even 10k es was so powerfull with vaal pact.I mean u dont need any other defence mechanic.hit leech and ur full 10k es on every hit.that is god damn broken as you see.

theres single 500 life unique item for life builds.and it doesnt even have sockets..but you can get 800+es chest with 6 socket.wheres the justice in that?
it seems like most of all GGG wanted to nerf a number of whiny schoolgirls from the game

and look - its working! paka

this nerf have a drawback tho - buffing number of trolls, but tradeoff ok haha
GGG, Good job! This is very good updates we've waited for a long time.
Really? This coming league is going to be brutal. This just pushes me to want to play more SRS every time i see the changes being made. Survivability and damage have gone way down. I expect hc to be a shitstorm of rips to level 100 after this.

Edit: This actually upsets me. My aurabot, which is ES/LL is highly dependant on ES from Shavs, Boots, Gloves, Belt and Ring rolls due to reserve gear req. So, i just took a huge hit to survivability. Auramancers already took a huge hit last patch with reduced AoE for auras and Vaal D no longer granting flat ES. I mean, holy fuck. Now i feel forced to play Guardian over the Auramancer just to be capable of surviving high level content.
Last edited by shinigamiscall#6014 on May 18, 2017, 10:43:37 AM
all these crying bitches in this thread...

hilarious and sad at the same time.

keep up the good work GGG!
GR will be no longer provides any leech to es right?
Last edited by NoX1ous#5795 on May 18, 2017, 10:48:03 AM
Interesting changes to come and I'm quite excited to see what the result will be. Before everyone gets their panties in a twist it is important to remember that the pantheon system has an almost entirely defensive focus. I believe that these changes were made with that in mind so we will have to wait and see what the final numbers will be. That aside, I agree with almost every single change that, might, come to fruition. IMO it shouldn't even be possible to build a character with only energy shield, because that is simply not how it was designed. I predict a whole lot of hybrid ideas coming to the surface, lots of shaper's touch, geoffri's body armour builds. Stacking strength for es. Templar Guardian will be really strong still, with it being able to scale mana for es.

With these changes a change in thinking when building a build will be needed. Instead of stacking energy shield, there might be a more useful option, for example, stacking mana and using mind over matter as a we to deal with huge damage spikes. Instead of traveling across the tree for vaal pact or ghost reaver, you stack regen and increased recharge rate. The more I think about it the more interesting build ideas come to mind. I must say too that I'm a huge fan of the change to ghost reaver. If it will work as i'm understanding, it will no longer make it so you can't leech life? Huge, huge quality of life for hybrid life and es builds. Vaal pact change was absolutely needed as ES's natural recharge, that you could still get while using Vaal pact, does not compare to life regen which is removed with the taking of Vaal pact. 100% needed change.

Another point that needs to be made. The changes will not be retroactive, as i'm understanding. Meaning, that gear that you spent so much money on will still stay the same. Think about it for a moment. Standard league, future builds will be nerfed but your precious ES builds with 100 exalts sunk into it will still be just as good.

I mean anyone who has a harsh negative reaction to this, I challenge you to think outside of what path of exile has been in the past. It is an expansion, changes are to be expected. Also don't shit all over something you haven't even tried yet. Everything that is being said now is not based in fact. I will be all ears for complaints once we have a chance to test and it feels awful. If it gets to that point then by all means, let the waterworks flow. Until it reaches that point, in beta mind you, i don't want to hear it.

So far the people complaining about these changes, at least in my experience, are people that have only ever play energy shield, CI based builds. Give it a chance, you might find that you enjoy a different build more than your facerolling content trivializer.

Side not - big fan of the changes to crafting with the addition of flat life. Big thumbs up there from me!
Last edited by Mannoutheone#5859 on May 18, 2017, 10:48:16 AM

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