[3.11] Shaper = Stunned, Tidebreaker Heavy Strike Stunner Build

Look at my character and tell me, is everything alright?

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Ganis886 wrote:

Look at my character and tell me, is everything alright?

I don't see anything wrong with your setup at all.

Maybe one change you can make is to get a better Ryslatha's. I just made some comments on page 117 about how important that max damage roll is, and you can take a look.

i looked at your skilltree and dont check what the jewel do ? Looks like bevor for me.
But i have no idea how that jewels work. Is there a simple explanation i can look for?

thanks for help. Til now no problem with maps. only some one shot from outside in legion encounters.

at bright.

you have no sec tidebreaker and cyclone in the first. Do you use that for bosses to?

Also i can corrupt it for 30 %. Is there a downside to not do that (i will make some white sockets and 6 link first to be more flexible with gems)

Thanks for providing such a detailed breakdown and explanation of the build!

I was comparing your build to my current one to see where I could improve, and there are a lot of... unrealistic things in the current slayer pastebin.

Perfectly rolled lion flask and belt, tombfist with corrupted vulnerability, boots with corrupted endurance charge, level 20 flesh and stone, etc. These all make up a huge portion of the damage.

This is a bit concerning and I'm starting to wonder if it's not going to take a LOT of investment for this to work?

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ichbinwerichbi wrote:

i looked at your skilltree and dont check what the jewel do ? Looks like bevor for me.
But i have no idea how that jewels work. Is there a simple explanation i can look for?

thanks for help. Til now no problem with maps. only some one shot from outside in legion encounters.

at bright.

you have no sec tidebreaker and cyclone in the first. Do you use that for bosses to?

Also i can corrupt it for 30 %. Is there a downside to not do that (i will make some white sockets and 6 link first to be more flexible with gems)

The jewel modifies nodes covered inside its radius. Keystones are swapped, notables have added mods (20% increased melee damage, for example), and small nodes have +4 or +2 strength (normal nodes have +4, +10 attribute nodes have +2).

The added mods to notables are random and can be rerolled by using divine.

I am using Cyclone for map bosses. The Shockwaves are enough to stun them. When I fought guardians I did take Cyclone out.

As for the 30% quality, I have been hesitating because I kind of want to Vaal it in hopes for a Fortify corruption. I am thinking of using safehouse to raise it's quality.

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splinterz wrote:

Thanks for providing such a detailed breakdown and explanation of the build!

I was comparing your build to my current one to see where I could improve, and there are a lot of... unrealistic things in the current slayer pastebin.

Perfectly rolled lion flask and belt, tombfist with corrupted vulnerability, boots with corrupted endurance charge, level 20 flesh and stone, etc. These all make up a huge portion of the damage.

This is a bit concerning and I'm starting to wonder if it's not going to take a LOT of investment for this to work?

I think Flesh and Stone should be capped at level 6, so I should make the change some time soon.

As for the gears, they are all my own gears and found in previous leagues. They were all pretty cheap in the past... Now this is a melee league and this build received quite a lot of attention, so things are becoming expensive.

However, you don't really have to worry about all the luxury stuff. Vulnerability corruption only offers 6% DPS in this PoB page, Rylslatha's minimum damage roll is not really important, and the only expensive rare that I have is the elder amulet, which, because we are going pure phys now, we won't even make use of. and Lion's Roar... If you check my own character this league I don't even own a Lion's Roar yet, and I did a few Guardian fights on a 5link and the fights were very smooth.

So you can feel free to lower the numbers on the gears I imported, and you can see the DPS numbers or the life total goes down a bit. But you don't have to feel concerned, I can guarantee you that with my own gears I can stun-lock Shaper consistently on a 5 link - and 6 link to 5 link is a difference of 50% more damage.

Overall you will be in a very good shape if you find gears similar to or not too far worse than mine in the Legion league. And as your reference, I think I have spent around 12 exalts in my own build in Legion, 7 of which went into fusings for 6 linking.

EDIT: I just realized that I should have spent 16 exalts instead of 12, as I forget to count my Tombfist, which cost me 4 ex. So that gives 9 ex for all my gears and 7 ex for fusings.

Since the buff to melee, is ground slam a viable contender here? Or does HS double dmg nature too much to beat?

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H3avyM3tal wrote:

Since the buff to melee, is ground slam a viable contender here? Or does HS double dmg nature too much to beat?

Heavy Strike is an objectively far better choice for things like Shaper stunning. Heavy Strike and Ground Slam can both stun Shaper nonetheless.

So, yes you can ignore Heavy Strike and use Ground Slam only. The advantage of doing so is that you won’t have to worry about the threshold jewels and enchant. There are disadvantages as well, being that you have generally lower DPS, which can be problematic against stun immune bosses or Shaper if you’re not well geared,

Overall, I still recommend having Heavy Strike either in your secondary weapon or in your stash (for quick replacement before intense boss fights). But I wouldn’t call it 100% necessary, especially if you’re mostly just farming normal maps.

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brightwaha wrote:

The jewel modifies nodes covered inside its radius. Keystones are swapped, notables have added mods (20% increased melee damage, for example), and small nodes have +4 or +2 strength (normal nodes have +4, +10 attribute nodes have +2).

The added mods to notables are random and can be rerolled by using divine.

I am using Cyclone for map bosses. The Shockwaves are enough to stun them. When I fought guardians I did take Cyclone out.

As for the 30% quality, I have been hesitating because I kind of want to Vaal it in hopes for a Fortify corruption. I am thinking of using safehouse to raise it's quality.

Wow you really taff. a 6l tiedebreaker to brick :-)

but youre right. Safehause with 28 is also good. And there is the posibility of corruption end of league or if i have to much currency (what never happens til now)

I dont understand how people like you get so much currency to get this really good stuff in week one :-) I am happy if i have items like yours end of league.
But there also people in this thread who got 2 6 l tiedbreaker with small amount of fusings. so lets see how far the build brings me. Til now i am really happy with it.

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brightwaha wrote:

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H3avyM3tal wrote:

Since the buff to melee, is ground slam a viable contender here? Or does HS double dmg nature too much to beat?

Heavy Strike is an objectively far better choice for things like Shaper stunning. Heavy Strike and Ground Slam can both stun Shaper nonetheless.

So, yes you can ignore Heavy Strike and use Ground Slam only. The advantage of doing so is that you won’t have to worry about the threshold jewels and enchant. There are disadvantages as well, being that you have generally lower DPS, which can be problematic against stun immune bosses or Shaper if you’re not well geared,

Overall, I still recommend having Heavy Strike either in your secondary weapon or in your stash (for quick replacement before intense boss fights). But I wouldn’t call it 100% necessary, especially if you’re mostly just farming normal maps.

Im using HS with shockwave for map clearing and its working quite well so far. How can I lower shockwave cooldown more though?