[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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Fukurokage wrote:

What do you think about using:

Magna is +2lvl, life, ES, Armour and additional 1000dmg shield (but lacks freeze/ignite immunity)
Surrender is life, Armour, life on block, armour on block and can be (in some cases) used with Curse On Hit.

The immunities on Solaris and Lunaris are too good to pass up, so I chose not to fuse them into a magna. I switch between the two depending on boss and map mods. A Lunaris + Chayula gives stun and freeze immunity. Solaris gives ignite. Both very useful QoL.

As for surrender, I think this build doesn't focus on block and armour, so it's better to use another shield - either stacking ES or a utility/+gem shield like Solaris/Lunaris.

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thinklater wrote:

I'm trying to add animated guardian, would the recommended version work well if I'm not running bone offering? I was looking to maybe run dyadus for the bonus to TVs, is it possible to run singularity+dyadus or does it have to be 2x dyadus?

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mika2salo wrote:

Animate Guardian is pretty tricky to balance around defense so that it can survive endgame bosses ... Dyadus are huge DPS boost, so it's definitely worth trying if you can find a way to keep AG alive with that setup. If Necro Aegis, Bone Offering and extra support gems fail, you can go back to default setup.

I use AG for Uber Elder runs. Mine's only level 27 with 75k hp and 3.5k regen, equipped with bringer of rain, ice tomb, dual dyadus, southbound, rainbowstride. Its hp bar barely moves; It's so much tankier than I am haha.

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mika2salo wrote:

Vis can be problem if it starts killing Golems if boss fight. Maybe using Elementalist to get Elemental immune Golems with 4+1+1 mix and still using 5x Specs could work?

AG certainly is huge addon to damage. By adding it and increasing number of TVs you can go from fast kill boss to overkill. With dual Dyadus and Icetome it just needs lots of support gems to survive t16+ boss fights, so freeing slots for it is hard.

The main issue, I can think of, is spectre survivability in end-game (ie. Uber Elder) content. T16 and Shaper is not actually that challenging once you have good gear and some experience. Going elementalist trades spectre damage and survivability for golem damage and survivability. I think elementalist is fine for anything shaper and under, but I'm not sure the trade-off is worth it for the end-game. Also, it seems like the golems are fine for Shaper even with the -20% hp from Vis.

Level 28 AG only needs two slots (21/0 AG and 4 Empower in a +2 shield & Level 30 needs a +3 shield). Not cheap, but achievable. Minion life 21/20 could be necessary as well for that 3rd link.

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mika2salo wrote:

I have tried spawning Elder in T15 for 30+ times now.

Use the spawn anywhere trick for 15th frag!
After 10 tries, I used the trick, then after my first uber kill, elder respawn in T15. lol.

Ive been playing this build once as an elementalist , it will work as an occulist or should i stick with the necro version? *leveling right now*

hi mika, its me again, thx for answering my question, im now 78lv and playing with golem already, i have 3 golems now and i trade 3 golems with 8 zombie, i think that will work better.

You have mentioned that there is golem gem for 10c, but no luck with that, on poe trade, there is only 20Quality 20lv gem, 21lv gem with no quality, there is no 20 quality 21lv gem. Which one will you suggest to buy, 20quality gem or 21lv gem? i dont know which one is better.

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The immunities on Solaris and Lunaris are too good to pass up, so I chose not to fuse them into a magna. I switch between the two depending on boss and map mods. A Lunaris + Chayula gives stun and freeze immunity. Solaris gives ignite. Both very useful QoL.

As for surrender, I think this build doesn't focus on block and armour, so it's better to use another shield - either stacking ES or a utility/+gem shield like Solaris/Lunaris.

Hello :)

Yep, ailment immunities are huge Qol update. I think I could reach higher DPS with Necro, but I like all elemental ailment immunity and bleed immunity too much to change back for some DPS :P

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I use AG for Uber Elder runs. Mine's only level 27 with 75k hp and 3.5k regen, equipped with bringer of rain, ice tomb, dual dyadus, southbound, rainbowstride. Its hp bar barely moves; It's so much tankier than I am haha.

When I ran 4 link AG earlier in my +1 Rainbowstrides with old "minion life" -gem which had "increased" minion life instead of "more" I think I lost my AG only to Lab traps and double blast Uber atziri. Now with higher base level from +2-3 shield and "more" life from minion life, it should be pretty much indestructible.

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The main issue, I can think of, is spectre survivability in end-game (ie. Uber Elder) content. T16 and Shaper is not actually that challenging once you have good gear and some experience. Going elementalist trades spectre damage and survivability for golem damage and survivability. I think elementalist is fine for anything shaper and under, but I'm not sure the trade-off is worth it for the end-game. Also, it seems like the golems are fine for Shaper even with the -20% hp from Vis.

Level 28 AG only needs two slots (21/0 AG and 4 Empower in a +2 shield & Level 30 needs a +3 shield). Not cheap, but achievable. Minion life 21/20 could be necessary as well for that 3rd link.

After testing Elementalist throughly, I thing that 4+1+1 FGs and 3x TVs with +1 level corrupt Sotl deal more damage than 4+1+1 FGs with 4x TVs woth +1 level corrupt Vis Mortis. TVs need either dyadys boost from AG or "Soul Weaver" to get much higher DPS than FGs with Elementalist.

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Use the spawn anywhere trick for 15th frag!
After 10 tries, I used the trick, then after my first uber kill, elder respawn in T15. lol.

I just tried random luck spawn and elder spawned on t14 -_-

I'm really interested how this trick works? Can you please give more details or link?

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Ive been playing this build once as an elementalist , it will work as an occulist or should i stick with the necro version? *leveling right now*

Hey :)

Necro and Elementalist are easier on gear and level requirement. They can archieve good DPS with Ascendancy nodes and good survival.

Occultist works very well, but needs lots of high end gear to be able to reach enough DPS and EHP (HP + ES) to be able to both clear fast and tank more damage than Necro or Ele. You seem to be still leveling with pretty low ES gear, so I recommend leveling up to 85-90 and trading for mid-high tier gear before switching to Occultist.

Before lvl 90, it doesn't matter much if you go with either Necro or Ele as both get good DPS and you already have Anima Stone. It's mostly which ones play-style you prefer more ;)

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hi mika, its me again, thx for answering my question, im now 78lv and playing with golem already, i have 3 golems now and i trade 3 golems with 8 zombie, i think that will work better.

You have mentioned that there is golem gem for 10c, but no luck with that, on poe trade, there is only 20Quality 20lv gem, 21lv gem with no quality, there is no 20 quality 21lv gem. Which one will you suggest to buy, 20quality gem or 21lv gem? i dont know which one is better.

Thanks for support ^^

I recommend buying lvl 21, quality 0% gem as soon as you can. Extra level matters for Golems DPS and HP much more than what 20%q can give them, each level to Golems gives them roughly 10% more DPS and HP. Usually 21/0 gems are 10-15c after week in new league.

3 Golems should be stronger than 8x zombies at you level. Zombies are nice meat-shields at low level maps, but start melting in boss fight too fast later on.

Use the spawn anywhere trick for 15th frag!
After 10 tries, I used the trick, then after my first uber kill, elder respawn in T15. lol.


Mind sharing a link or description of this trick?
Thank you.

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EDMOSES wrote:

Use the spawn anywhere trick for 15th frag!
After 10 tries, I used the trick, then after my first uber kill, elder respawn in T15. lol.


Mind sharing a link or description of this trick?
Thank you.

the spawn anywhere trick i think he is talking about is a service you can get from some one to use their t16 map to get all of your fragments like this guy is doing in the flashback

you basicly for t1-10 just join his t16 boss kills and for t11-15 orbs you need to have your elder on your atlas on a map that he has elder influence you then run his t16 map what your elder is on from 11 - 15 frags he explains better in the post

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2143326/page/1#p15520209

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EDMOSES wrote:

Use the spawn anywhere trick for 15th frag!
After 10 tries, I used the trick, then after my first uber kill, elder respawn in T15. lol.


Mind sharing a link or description of this trick?
Thank you.

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the spawn anywhere trick i think he is talking about is a service you can get from some one to use their t16 map to get all of your fragments like this guy is doing in the flashback

you basicly for t1-10 just join his t16 boss kills and for t11-15 orbs you need to have your elder on your atlas on a map that he has elder influence you then run his t16 map what your elder is on from 11 - 15 frags he explains better in the post

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2143326/page/1#p15520209

Hello :)

Thanks for info! I gotta check how it works closer and if I can find map provider in standard. Hopefully I can record uber run before next leagues potential atlas reset.

Hello! Good shaper kill video, Uber Elder next!

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alexandro_108 wrote:

Hello! Good shaper kill video, Uber Elder next!

Thanks for support ^^

T15+ Elder and Uber Elder are completely RNG locked content, so I'm not very hopeful that I have interest to grind for it after 30+ failed attempts. GGG made really, really bad decision on how high tier Elders are spawning.

There are however some Uber Elder videos in the thread, so build can do it pretty easily. Guild members have been luckier at spawning Uber Elder and reported that fight was doable with only few deaths even first try.

There seems to be trick / bug in how to force uber spawn using friends carto machine, but I haven't found player in standard with similar Atlas yet.

guys i need some help plz . what is wrong with my build or items for my defence i need improve it plz
here is my pastebin
https://pastebin.com/AY6dmwZZ
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