[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

Ahh thanks a lot mika!! Yeah I actually have a spectee build already as necro but just leveling an elementalist to see if I like a golem based specte build more than converting my spectre build into spectre based golem build. Also got tired od AG dying so fast in some scenarios lmao.

O know I could spam regrets amd change ascendacy but for some reason I made a new guy.


I think im gonna go for 4 fire folems and TVs and try to fit lightning and stone golem somewhere.


Or maybe 5 fires and 1 stoner golem. Since I just read somewhere golems dont buff each others. Whats master mikas opinion? :) Im not even sure if I need the stoned golem though as I still do have a life flask.

Tbh what are the upsides of going ES over life? Never done es build and this is my first league.

Have you ever used curses on hit with your main skill instead of as auras? Im not sure if the CwC bone/flesh offering would be as good as an elementalist or are they still good even without the necro ascendancies that give half of the effect to you?
Just losing possible dps auras for minions for blasphemy seems scary. Maybe I should just give it a go tho.


If I were to use both haste + anger with enlighten and generosity, do you think dropping anger for lets say purity of elements if I need more easy all res? I might not need it tho, if I can find well resistanced unset rings easily. Unless I go with storm burst cwc and blasphemy curses in whixh case this paragraph is obsolete.


EDIT: Sorry as time goes on I have to edit in more questions. Im a knowledge hungry young golemancer student. :8
Last edited by dransureu#7068 on Mar 30, 2018, 10:43:18 PM
Your guide is very confusing i must say, you maybe have the info but its not friendly at all.. where is the items to use as starter with the guide?! and mid game? up to mapping? like the most important thing to have in my opinion. And where is the pastebin? why not have it shown as the first thing on your guide lol.
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KGF wrote:
Your guide is very confusing i must say, you maybe have the info but its not friendly at all.. where is the items to use as starter with the guide?! and mid game? up to mapping? like the most important thing to have in my opinion. And where is the pastebin? why not have it shown as the first thing on your guide lol.


If you are asking for the pastebin first, you probably shouldn't need the leveling progress portion of the guide. If you need the leveling portion to be that detailed, you probably shouldn't be messing around with POB as you need your hand held more than what POB offers.

That being said, there is a leveling section that explains what to do. Everything is in tabs with easy to understand headers for what is under each tab, I thought the guide was very easy to read.
I made this for giggles and it kinda works? Great for pesky bosses the adds just surround it LOL Once I get it to Lv20 I'll do more testing

Hey mika2salo could you take alook at my gear and tell me where i could improve and , atm i am playing 6-3-1 but havent quite gotten the AG up and running yet , i want a PoC but i only got 6ex atm , any help would be much appreciated , i know i still need levels as i just hit 80 but i really like the build just want to tune it better my survivability is bad but i might be playing bad
How come the Elementalist version you use Paragon of Calamity and Pendulum of Destruction over Beacon of ruin for the ascendeacy ?
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dransureu wrote:
Ahh thanks a lot mika!! Yeah I actually have a spectee build already as necro but just leveling an elementalist to see if I like a golem based specte build more than converting my spectre build into spectre based golem build. Also got tired od AG dying so fast in some scenarios lmao.

O know I could spam regrets amd change ascendacy but for some reason I made a new guy.


I think im gonna go for 4 fire folems and TVs and try to fit lightning and stone golem somewhere.


Or maybe 5 fires and 1 stoner golem. Since I just read somewhere golems dont buff each others. Whats master mikas opinion? :) Im not even sure if I need the stoned golem though as I still do have a life flask.

Tbh what are the upsides of going ES over life? Never done es build and this is my first league.

Have you ever used curses on hit with your main skill instead of as auras? Im not sure if the CwC bone/flesh offering would be as good as an elementalist or are they still good even without the necro ascendancies that give half of the effect to you?
Just losing possible dps auras for minions for blasphemy seems scary. Maybe I should just give it a go tho.


If I were to use both haste + anger with enlighten and generosity, do you think dropping anger for lets say purity of elements if I need more easy all res? I might not need it tho, if I can find well resistanced unset rings easily. Unless I go with storm burst cwc and blasphemy curses in whixh case this paragraph is obsolete.


EDIT: Sorry as time goes on I have to edit in more questions. Im a knowledge hungry young golemancer student. :8


Hello :)

Golems get bonus for each Golem type from primordial Harmony, but don't buff each others in other ways.

Going ES means higher EHP (HP+ES) since lots of summoner items are almost purely ES based. Focusing on ES nodes gives more jewel options compared to life, as ES nodes are focused on smaller area which has more jewel sockets.

I have tested curse on hit, but didn't really like it. Main reason is that max effect Temp Chains in Blasphemy with good range stops enemy attacks on tracks. Off-screen charge attacks from Rhoas or pack of goat-men can easily kill char without physical reduction. Temp Chains on Blasphemy literally stops attacks mid-air and I can change position. On curse Temp Chains would not save against off-screen attacks.

Angers gives only slight boost to minions. Haste is reasonable as it gives also clear-speed, as minions start moving faster with you. If you run auras and relay on curse in hit for defense, I can imagine there will be problems with physical attacks from mobs.

Hope this helps ;)


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Your guide is very confusing i must say, you maybe have the info but its not friendly at all.. where is the items to use as starter with the guide?! and mid game? up to mapping? like the most important thing to have in my opinion. And where is the pastebin? why not have it shown as the first thing on your guide lol.


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If you are asking for the pastebin first, you probably shouldn't need the leveling progress portion of the guide. If you need the leveling portion to be that detailed, you probably shouldn't be messing around with POB as you need your hand held more than what POB offers.

That being said, there is a leveling section that explains what to do. Everything is in tabs with easy to understand headers for what is under each tab, I thought the guide was very easy to read.


Hey :)

Your true in a sense that such long guide has to be cut in shorter parts for it to be readable.

Leveling gear is fused with leveling passive skill trees "Leveling -> Leveling skill tree -> Steps". It's not the most logical place but saves some extra parts and can be found if checking guide more closely.

Pastebin is straight in "Passives" section. This should be pretty logical place to find it. Not all players use Pob, so I decided to save page and put it in Passives section.

I'm doing re-designing and cleaning every large update between leagues, so Ill take your feedback in account next time I'm updating the guide ;)



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I made this for giggles and it kinda works? Great for pesky bosses the adds just surround it LOL Once I get it to Lv20 I'll do more testing


Hey :)

Pretty interesting combination ^^

If Vaal Skels survive guardians, they are viable decoy. You could also use Increased Duration instead of faster attacks and fortify instead of minion damage to make them stick abound as long as possible.




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Hey mika2salo could you take alook at my gear and tell me where i could improve and , atm i am playing 6-3-1 but havent quite gotten the AG up and running yet , i want a PoC but i only got 6ex atm , any help would be much appreciated , i know i still need levels as i just hit 80 but i really like the build just want to tune it better my survivability is bad but i might be playing bad


Hi :)

I recommend switching curses to the Vertex and using :
Ele Weak -> Temp Chains -> Blasphemy -> Enhance (corrupt lvl 3)
Vertex gives enhance extra level and boost Temp Chains effect. Take also "Leadership" and "Skittering Runes" from skill tree asap to really cap Temporal Chains effect and to be able to activate curses with Enhance + Discipline. This way you dont have to worry about trash mobs ;)

Wrath Knuckle has very low ES and no HP. I would switch it to 40+ ES and 40+ HP rings. Amulet and other ring looks ok.

Your Storm burst and Shield Charge are over-leveled. Leveling it only raises mana cost for no benefit. You can buy level 1 gem from last act vendor. You cant use either with dual curses and Enhance if they are over lvl 1.

You have decent gear for the level. If you get curses fixed, you should have no problems with non-boss mobs.

For boss fights, I recommend running in circle all the time. Run at about 1/3 of screen from boss to the same direction. This makes sure that curses hit the boss, but boss can't attack you with dangerous physical melee attacks. Once in a while when you are sure its safe, stop to cast Storm Burst to apply EE and offering on boss.


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How come the Elementalist version you use Paragon of Calamity and Pendulum of Destruction over Beacon of ruin for the ascendeacy ?


Hey :)

I tested Beacon in mapping and in PVP with friend and we came to conclusion that shock is on about
6 sec / 14 sec, which means less than half of the time. The damage to shock bosses from Elemental Equilibrium trigger skill is just too low to shock bosses outside of shock / conflux phase.

The rotation of phases also requires focus from players, when to use EE skill so it takes focus from kiting and surviving. Damage is already plenty and buff requiring focus from surviving and unreliable timings just didn't seem like worth it.

Paragon gives elemental defense and small node leading to it helps to cap resistances.

Pendulum increases periodically curse area and small node leading to it gives attack speed and makes Shield Charging faster.

Smaller nodes leading to Beacon give only elemental damage and chance to cause ailments which are useless to build.
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
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Last edited by mika2salo#7776 on Mar 31, 2018, 6:30:23 AM
Ahhh great thanks a lot! Yea I think Im gonna convert into ES just to try it out and see how it is. Your passives are all for lvl100, which 9 points would you remove from the elementalist tree if you had to make a lvl91 tree? For me counting on getting lvl100 just like that isnt gonna happen anyways, but it might ofc. ;)

Tried the storm burst thing and it does feel good with cwc.


E: Both blashphemies + disc = 105% mana reserved. Are those couple nodes of less mana reserved enough? im just scared, im sure it probably is since you put it this way? D: Oopsie. Still wondering.

Also god damn my sceptres keep dying while lvling. Had to take some life regen for minions quick, hope itsolves it haha. (still using bone offering over flesh offering as elementalist cause those spectres are weak as fuck).


Btw how required is the chaylas neck? I understand that for high end bossing it prob is but for mapping up to t16? I use a sidhebreath with perfect rolls + 20% minion damage corrupt. Looking at chaylas neck prices I might wanna get a good helmet before chaylas, unless its really mandatory. (The stats it gives look super essential for ES build but Im not sure)

Last edited by dransureu#7068 on Mar 31, 2018, 3:11:48 PM
Very solid guide and inspired me to play a golemancer. Currently tearing my way through T14/15 maps with ease on a life-based MoM elementalist version I created and I haven't even really incorporated spectres at all yet. And this is just on a level 19 Flame Golem.

How much advantage do you feel in going Empower 3/4 in your primarily link setup? Every time I play around with my links in PoB, I get more damage by using Elemental Focus. Does PoB misrepresent the damage or do you get some other benefit from using it that I'm not seeing? Because not only is the L4 gem hard to get or expensive, but so is the Skin of the Loyal in those colors (vs. 1R1G4B costing 2 ex instead of 6+). Is Skin even worth using if you're not going to go Empower?
Just looking for some advice. My Skin of the Loyal is BBGGRR. What is the most damaging links?

Thanks!
Last edited by christophenuss#3852 on Mar 31, 2018, 1:08:44 PM

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