[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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Deklnu wrote:

Saw the post earlier about +2 minion damage helm plus other minion stats.

Thinking about going this route to give my spectres 6L chest and putting helm to golems. What is best combo for helm if I just have minion damage, minion life. What 4 sockets would you recommend?

When I had golems in an elder helmet, I socketed: Golem, GMP, Ele focus, Echo.
I swapped GMP for slower proj in boss fights.

Hi,
very nice build. Like it so far, event thou the placestyle of a summoner is something I need to get used to.

Maybe you guys can help me out a little.

I get the sotl with the 2g2r2b, but currently I am forced to switch to a rare for defenses and elemental resistences.

- Rings are a pain to get (no minion speed available when I search, no mattter the price)
- In maps like residence with a lot of smal rooms my golems trail so far behind they are clearing the room that I allready left. In open maps its close to the same. To loot I have to turn around a lot, slowing me down quit a bit. What to do? I usually run past the monsters with quicksilver and cast arc or offering. Then I have to wait. (My gems are at low level I know, execpt 20/20 golems, rest is not for map clearing anyway).
- The trade between ullyr for extra spectre or survivalbility with a ES boots are a big deal for me. Sometimes I feel like I am made of paper. I run setup with phase run, does immortal call help much to save from 1-shots?
- I hate "core" map boss :)
- Animated Guardien question: That guy is gone after logoff? When you mean "Switch it out for bossfight where it will die!". You remove the gem? Isn't the gear gone then? How to recast that thing?
- I realized I missed the unnatural calm, will get it next lvlup.
- Chayula is nowhere near my budget.
- I read the part about where to get ES from, no worries I follwed the threat since page 227 and I know if have to shop a lot. Still I feel its my playstyle and the slow golems holding me back.

Thank you for the build. Always wanted to try one golemancer. Finally did it. Much respect for anwsering all these questions.

Best regards,

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jacob1818 wrote:

@mika2salo and Synx88, thank you very much for the kind and detailed replies, that's great information!!! Now to research more based on what you guys said, that's a very good start point for me!

I printed what you guys said (I'm old lol) and I'll read while I play :)

I thought 3ex would be "expensive" already, but it seems that the sky is the limit for the price to get this character going.
My (cookie cutter) RF made 157/157 with a 5ex budget.

And Synx88, based on what you said, I researched more and the point you brought about cost x clearspeed is very true. Sadly, it's somewhat discouraging and made me think twice into investing time into this build, seems like it will get expensive to get insane clear speed.

All I have atm is a lvl21 flame golem gem, should be the starter.
Oh well, I guess Necro it is then, I guess elementalist would be the best choice with insane investment!! Nevertheless, sounds like incredibly fun to play, first time with a summoner!

Best wishes and thank you again!!

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I wouldn't get too discouraged, just keep your expectations realistic.

If you find that you really enjoy the summoner playstyle, it's not going to matter if the initial investment to get going was higher, since mapping with a build you enjoy is always going to be far more tolerable than with a build you dislike that maps a bit faster.

Hey :)

Yep, no reason to be discouraged.

If you have Anima Stone and 3x Harmonies, you can do all content with adding only few exalt price. 2r2g2b Skin On Loyal is pretty cheap, 21/0 Flame Golem gem less than 10c and you can stack chaos res in rings, rare ammy and belt. I did this in abyss league and leveled to 92 with maybe 2 ex worth gear after getting animas.

It's best to play with build that you like. You can upgrade all builds slowly and raise map tiers with gear updates.

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Thoughts on The scourge, lose 1 golem but gain nasty dps....

Hi :)

Scourge might be decent DPS upgrade. I think more projectile based minions gives better clear-speed than less and more damage dealing (probably only exception being vicratio's Charity vs 1x extra Golem). If you test and like the change please post results here ;)

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how does support immolate works on solar guards and tukohama vanguards ? is it any usefull ?

Hey :)

"Immolation Support is a support gem that grants additional fire damage against hit burning enemies."

It adds damage to hits against burning enemies, so the enemy has to be burning for it to have any effect. Problem is that Tukohama Specs dont "hit", and Solar Guards have 5% chance to crit and ignite. With charitys power charges chance to crit goes up to 35%, but at boss its just 5% without boss minions for golems to kill.


if i craft helmet, wich stats i should prioritize ?
im kinda confused with elder implict on helmet and how it works with skills

Hello :)

I would recommend Hubris with lvl 80+ item level.

Try to get :
- Minion damage support (any level)
- Burning damage support (any level)
- Minion life support (any level, this replaces burning damage in priority if not playing Necromancer)
- Max Energy Shield or increased Energy Shield

Tukuhama Vanguards can't use immolate or conc effect supports.

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What about those minion taunt abyssal jewels? Would that help solve agro?

Hi :)

I'm pretty sure that taunt works only on melee hits. Golems have no melee hits, and Tukohama Specters have them, but they are pretty lazy at hitting like Animate Guardian. Lots of bosses are resistant to taunting and "cannot be taunted" is common map mod. You can try the gem and see if it triggers constantly.

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Which Panthoen`s should i take help please I am Elementalist 6 golem DPS one.

Hey :)

I would still use Lunaris and Aberrath. Burning ground still does damage to you as it doesn't "ignite" you. It's pretty annoying as it prevents ES regen.

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Saw the post earlier about +2 minion damage helm plus other minion stats.

Thinking about going this route to give my spectres 6L chest and putting helm to golems. What is best combo for helm if I just have minion damage, minion life. What 4 sockets would you recommend?

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When I had golems in an elder helmet, I socketed: Golem, GMP, Ele focus, Echo.
I swapped GMP for slower proj in boss fights.

Hey :)

Golems in helmet don't really need minion life as they are almost immortal at high level. I would rather get minion damage and conc effect supports.

Links are the same as "kayella" posted, Golem -> GMP -> Ele Focus / Cont Dest -> Echo.

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So a question I can't seem to find the answer to. For the 6 flame golem elementalist, is there a point for all the Primordial Harmonies, or is that only relevant for the 4+1+1?

Hi :)

Golems have 6 seconds cooldown on their skill so when they have spammed 3x orbs, they have to wait 6 seconds to cast new orb without any Harmonies. Harmonies are only jewels that can lower the cooldown, and they are atm bugged and lower the cooldown with double effectiveness. This lets them spam as many Orbs as they can if you have enough Harmonies equipped. I would put at least 6-7x Harmonies to any Golemancer no matter which class.

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Hi,
very nice build. Like it so far, event thou the placestyle of a summoner is something I need to get used to.

Maybe you guys can help me out a little.

I get the sotl with the 2g2r2b, but currently I am forced to switch to a rare for defenses and elemental resistences.

- Rings are a pain to get (no minion speed available when I search, no mattter the price)
- In maps like residence with a lot of smal rooms my golems trail so far behind they are clearing the room that I allready left. In open maps its close to the same. To loot I have to turn around a lot, slowing me down quit a bit. What to do? I usually run past the monsters with quicksilver and cast arc or offering. Then I have to wait. (My gems are at low level I know, execpt 20/20 golems, rest is not for map clearing anyway).
- The trade between ullyr for extra spectre or survivalbility with a ES boots are a big deal for me. Sometimes I feel like I am made of paper. I run setup with phase run, does immortal call help much to save from 1-shots?
- I hate "core" map boss :)
- Animated Guardien question: That guy is gone after logoff? When you mean "Switch it out for bossfight where it will die!". You remove the gem? Isn't the gear gone then? How to recast that thing?
- I realized I missed the unnatural calm, will get it next lvlup.
- Chayula is nowhere near my budget.
- I read the part about where to get ES from, no worries I follwed the threat since page 227 and I know if have to shop a lot. Still I feel its my playstyle and the slow golems holding me back.

Thank you for the build. Always wanted to try one golemancer. Finally did it. Much respect for anwsering all these questions.

Best regards,

Thanks for support :)

- You can try crafting rings yourself with "Essence of Fear". Try to get as high tier essence as your budget lets you and try to roll any high level non-unique ring with them. I recommend Prismatic ring with lvl 80+ i-level as it gives always 10% ele res.

- Minions lagging behind is strictly tied to first problem with no minion speed from rings. You can shield charge in packs and take 1 hit, so that Conco teleports minion to you. You can also charge through pack, so that minion left far enough behind will teleport to you.

- Once you hit 9-10k EHP (HP+ES), only biggest physical hits can 1-shot you (minotaur burrow and shaper smash). New rings would help a lot.

- Core boss needs constant running around the arena. Only stop to Storm Burst when its absolutely safe and run in circle about 1/3 away from boss. When boss goes near heart, Storm Burst the heart and minions will kill the heart in seconds.

- Once you logoff, Animate Guardian is unsummoned as are Golems. You can summon it back in your Hideout by using the AG skill and it will appear back with all of it gear. Gear is char linked, so you can remove gem and even place new one. Freshly summoned AG will have old AG gear.

- If you take Unnatural Calm and stack HP / ES / Chaos res on belt, rare amulet and rings you can do all content without Chayula. I did this in Abyss and leveled till 92. I really recommend going back to Sotl as it gives about 350 flat ES with other high ES items. It also boosts Golems damage by alot and makes boss fights shorter.


Your problems are most likely coming from gems and gear mix-match.

You are Elementalist, but you are using Rathpith with no Necromantic Aegis. Elementalist cant get high block chance as offering wont affect the char. It's best to take high ES / HP shield for EHP, or take Necromantic Aegis with Victario's Charity for extra DPS.

Manual casting ARC takes pretty long time, and you have manual cast Desecrate and Flesh Offering as well taking your focus from kiting. I recommend testing the Storm Orb links, as it does all functions with 1 press of a button and you can focus on kiting after that.

You have Desolation and Beacon of Ruin most likely for the shock chance, but it may not be worth it. Paragon adds defense against element hits and Pendulum can increase curse range to keep you safer. ARC is just slow spell to cast and the damage boost is pretty unreliable.

Once your curses level back up, they will add lots of survival and time to kite.

For boss fights, I recommend running in circle all the time. Run at about 1/3 of screen from boss to the same direction. This makes sure that curses hit the boss, but boss can't attack you with dangerous physical melee attacks. Once in a while when you are sure its safe, stop to cast Storm Burst to apply EE and offering on boss.

Only if you are extremely familiar with boss moves, stand still and keep on casting Storm Burst.

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Which Panthoen`s should i take help please I am Elementalist 6 golem DPS one.

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Hey :)

I would still use Lunaris and Aberrath. Burning ground still does damage to you as it doesn't "ignite" you. It's pretty annoying as it prevents ES regen.

Thank you very much sir.

Just sharing the insane craft i managed to make on my new helmet :D
https://i.imgur.com/YdPUvv6.png

I died with my first char because I did not check any info on the bestiary spider boss
(Full chaos damage) lol. I just went in did the first phase and then in second phase I got hit by the multiplying bouncing spit balls and insta died with 75 chaos ress + 5% from pantheon :,)

0 portal left :'DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD rip staff XD

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So a question I can't seem to find the answer to. For the 6 flame golem elementalist, is there a point for all the Primordial Harmonies, or is that only relevant for the 4+1+1?

Hi :)

Golems have 6 seconds cooldown on their skill so when they have spammed 3x orbs, they have to wait 6 seconds to cast new orb without any Harmonies. Harmonies are only jewels that can lower the cooldown, and they are atm bugged and lower the cooldown with double effectiveness. This lets them spam as many Orbs as they can if you have enough Harmonies equipped. I would put at least 6-7x Harmonies to any Golemancer no matter which class.

Thanks for the response, that makes perfect sense! I'm doing the 4-1-1 elementalist, just got maps, but I was curious what the point was for the 6 flames.

Is it strictly better to have the spectre setup with flame golems instead of having lightning, ice and stone golems as supports with 2 clayshapers? (Elementalist) I think im also gonna use generosity with anger and maybe even haste/vaal haste.

Tbh I rather use a shield with necromantic aegis cause I love the celestial shield mtx. D: Just trying to make a life based golem build and many recommend using support golems. Dont mind using spectres tho. Or is it just better for map bossing to have the TVs instead of support golems?


also how about no AG? Im planning on going that route cause I hate regearing AG when he dies. Not the loss of currency but the stupid thing of gearing him up. Main reason I wanted to go for golem based instead of spectre based build now.

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Hoffen wrote:

Just sharing the insane craft i managed to make on my new helmet :D
https://i.imgur.com/YdPUvv6.png

I died with my first char because I did not check any info on the bestiary spider boss
(Full chaos damage) lol. I just went in did the first phase and then in second phase I got hit by the multiplying bouncing spit balls and insta died with 75 chaos ress + 5% from pantheon :,)

this helmet is indeed insane holly molly oO

i crafted allso mine from boughts shaped solaris circlet base

the problem i have is that i dont know if immolate even works with solaris/TV ://

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MidBlues wrote:

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Which Panthoen`s should i take help please I am Elementalist 6 golem DPS one.

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Hey :)

I would still use Lunaris and Aberrath. Burning ground still does damage to you as it doesn't "ignite" you. It's pretty annoying as it prevents ES regen.

Thank you very much sir.

Hey :)

Np, glad it helped ;)

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Just sharing the insane craft i managed to make on my new helmet :D
https://i.imgur.com/YdPUvv6.png

I died with my first char because I did not check any info on the bestiary spider boss
(Full chaos damage) lol. I just went in did the first phase and then in second phase I got hit by the multiplying bouncing spit balls and insta died with 75 chaos ress + 5% from pantheon :,)

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this helmet is indeed insane holly molly oO

i crafted allso mine from boughts shaped solaris circlet base

the problem i have is that i dont know if immolate even works with solaris/TV ://

Hi :)

You got some crafy helmets crafted! O_0

Zebedin -> Unfortunately Immolation doesn't work with TV Specs.

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0 portal left :'DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD rip staff XD

Hello :)

Gz on Uber Elder kill!

Seems like Elementalist is good choice for Uber Elder with elemental immune Golems ;)

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Thanks for the response, that makes perfect sense! I'm doing the 4-1-1 elementalist, just got maps, but I was curious what the point was for the 6 flames.

Hi :)

Glad to help!

6x Golems provide more shooting minions, and that way clear maps faster. 4+1+1 has almost same DPS with increased golems damage, but its concentrated on less shooting minions.

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Is it strictly better to have the spectre setup with flame golems instead of having lightning, ice and stone golems as supports with 2 clayshapers? (Elementalist) I think im also gonna use generosity with anger and maybe even haste/vaal haste.

Tbh I rather use a shield with necromantic aegis cause I love the celestial shield mtx. D: Just trying to make a life based golem build and many recommend using support golems. Dont mind using spectres tho. Or is it just better for map bossing to have the TVs instead of support golems?

also how about no AG? Im planning on going that route cause I hate regearing AG when he dies. Not the loss of currency but the stupid thing of gearing him up. Main reason I wanted to go for golem based instead of spectre based build now.

Hey :)

If you are doing life bases build, Stone Golem seems to be popular at least with RF chars. Not sure about how much adds to regen as I have not done life based builds. Anger adds only little damage for its mana cost. I think Haste would increase clear speed more.

I recommend using the shield over another Clayshaper as it provides about same DPS, gives minions chance to block (especially Specters) and gives you frenzy charges to shield charge faster.

TVs are the main boss damage dealers even when compared to Elementalists Golems. In good pseudo 6-link they melt bosses very fast. Golems clear maps with 4+1+1 and 6x setups fast enough and TVs deal with bosses.

You can replace AG with Fortify to get extra defense from Shield Charge. AG has excellent utility, but spamming trade to get all the gear can be annoying :D