[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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makingmericagreatagain wrote:


Maybe you can try "Ambu's Charge" on the ani guardian because he will share the endurance charges with you and your minions both, it can make you tankier.

Don't know how will it perform against chaos damage though.


Unfortunately, Ambu's Charge wouldn't work with minions, as they're not considered Party Members.
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Last edited by thsscapii#3432 on Sep 30, 2017, 11:28:12 AM
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pro2017 wrote:
Tmmr i should be 100
@mika waiting for your elementalist tree i will also make my char open once lv 100 xd !


Oh that was you! Didn't realise it xD

I'm Infernical. Still slowly leveling at 94 now. All the best for 100!
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makingmericagreatagain wrote:
First, check this out, you might wanna fix your tree:


Btw I played necro, didn't much liked it, ele immunity on summons plus +1 golem looked like a more decent deal to me.

Respecced for ele after lvl85, works good so far.


Hello :)

Thx for great suggestion! I'll test it with Pob after I come back home after weekend and don't have to use my crappy tablet anymore. The lowest dex jewel socket is in the tree as it's easier to grab it early game than the right one. For final tree I will add your fix if test show positive ;)


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anyone have a pastebin for an elementalist version of this? Wanna check it out but no idea about the ascendancies becuase I've never played ele.
Or even a pb of a cheaper version of this necro build. I didnt see one in the last few pages. OP's build is like superman gear whereas im trying to get a grasp on it with a peasant budget here
Also, why take influence in the passive tree? seems like it only boosts discipline? Can that not be boosted somewhere else?


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From what i experience now, ele is not "MUCH" different than necro by the terms of clearing speed. Since you get 1 more golem to make up for the damage loss, you still do less damage and it is clearly visible but not too bad.

Being able farm bosses easier than necro is just i couldn't resist to have that. :)

I also having thoughts about the tree and gear and see how i can upgrade it to a better version but couldn't find much apart from the tree fix above.

Maybe you can try "Ambu's Charge" on the ani guardian because he will share the endurance charges with you and your minions both, it can make you tankier.

Don't know how will it perform against chaos damage though.


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Thanks for your answer and suggestion but i still wanna try the Elementalist ascendency but i wanna play without animated guardian :)


Hi!

Elementalist tree is basically the same. You can drop "Herd of the Flock" if you dont use Animate Guardian, but rest is needed for Temp Chains, Life and ES and minion damage with jewel sockets.

From gear you can change Rainbowstrides for Death's doors or Rare boots and drop Rumis flask, as Offering wont affect you and getting only few % block from just rumis is not going to change much. Tempest shield on CWDT links cant be changed to Frost Wall of convocation.

Ambu's charge wont work on AG as its not in "party" with you. It sees you only as an "ally".

Gear is not that expensive if you are good at kiting. You just need to get high level golems and be able to dodge biggest boss moves. I'd say required gear is :
- Skin of the Loyal
- Anima Stone
- Level 21/0 Golems of possible
- Empower 3-4

Then your Golems will stay alive and you can just focus on dodging biggest boss moves ;)


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Hello !

First of all, i'd like to thank you for this build, i love it.
I created the necromancer version but i'm not a big fan of the offering system.

I'm actually doing an elementalist golem witch with 4 fire golem and 1 chaos golem (stronger dps thanks to the harmonies) and immortall call instead of bone offering. (no animated guardian for the moment).

But I have a question about elementalist ascendancy. Does the buff granted by Mastermind of discord work for my golem too (Like Elemental Equilibrium) ?
Or does it work only for spells that i directly cast ?

Thank you for your answers.


Thanks for support ^^

For Elementalist only useful nodes are "Liege of primordial" as it gives extra golem and immunity, and "paragon of calamity" as it gives less elemental damage taken after 1 hit. Rest wont affect Golems in any way and are not needed. No lab after cruel lab needs to be run with Elementalist.


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I sort of winged the guide and just bought the jewels and gave this a shot. I managed to kill shaper at level 80.


Here is the run here (Not very clean as I was chatting and playing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Qpjs_vYSOY&


Hello :)

You have really nicely grasped the concept that the build is all about kiting skill and not raw gear power. When Shaper smashes and hits, your dead anyway if you have 5k or 10k EHP. Your deaths during chatting were pretty unlucky.

Glad you liked the more aggressive version of the gem links. Ill be adding them later in the guide for players who want more active playstyle of extra DPS.

Really liked your comments about how you could both just play lazy and not click a single extra button or you could spam Totem, Offering and Golems for extra damage ^^


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Tmmr i should be 100
@mika waiting for your elementalist tree i will also make my char open once lv 100 xd !


There is still empty line for you in hall of fame ;)

Ill check your tree first thing next week when I get back home if you ding level 100 during weekend. Now i have my crappy tablet and cant even access Pob.
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
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Last edited by mika2salo#7776 on Sep 30, 2017, 11:58:23 AM
Hey Mika any chance of an Uber Atziri video or a run down on what is best to run for her. I don't have all the gear yet. still running 5link rare regalia armour and have about 8.6k(EDIT:9K now :D) ESHP
Last edited by BLACKPANTHERVII#2455 on Oct 1, 2017, 6:24:03 PM
What should I focus on next, gear wise?
I have 8 jewels, 1 anima, 1 primordial might, 4 primordial harmonies and 2 jewels with minion resist+dmg.

gear

O hey there
Rip me,left 6% to lvl 100
look like I have to wait till wed to lvl
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Last edited by pro2017#5475 on Oct 1, 2017, 10:01:42 AM
Would like to add that I found an annoying bug, not sure if it's isolated or some of you might suffer from it without knowing what is causing it ;)

if you have a cast when dmg taken link in clayshaper, it removes the 4th golem whenever its procs....
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mika2salo wrote:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Flame_Golem

In the page there are 2x charts :

First one is bonus to player from Gem level (This is what all players find)

Second one is hidden at the bottom of the page and has bonus to Golem per Gem level (This is what everyone is looking for)


It appears that second chart is for *monster* golem damage, presumably when you find these golems in the wild. The chart also starts at 34, so I don't think it has anything to do with gems. So maybe there is no good solid source of info for this kind of stuff.
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BLACKPANTHERVII wrote:
Hey Mika any chance of an Uber Atziri video or a run down on what is best to run for her. I don't have all the gear yet. still running 5link rare regalia armour and have about 8.6k ESHP


Hello :)

I will make Uber Atziri video as soon as i get enough pieces to run the map again. Drops have always been terrible for me there, so I haven't been in hurry to buy it.

If you are Elementalist you can do Uber Atziri prbably very soon as the trio is your biggest problem and not atziri. With Necromancer you need heavy defenses for Golems to be able to tank Double flameblast. If you get tons of Shaper and Uber sets, you can spec into Elementalist from Necromancer for the boss farming and then back.


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What should I focus on next, gear wise?
I have 8 jewels, 1 anima, 1 primordial might, 4 primordial harmonies and 2 jewels with minion resist+dmg.


Hello :)

You might want to maximize ES and HP on both rings. They are one of most important EHP source in build.

Presence of Chayula is very good for high level boss fights but looking at your gear, you might already have one and run Bisco only for MF.

Phase run should be last gem on gloves (low left position) as CWDT fires gems in certain order and any spell after Phase Run might cancel it.

Overall your gear and links look excellent. Now you just need more levels to get more useful skill-tree nodes ;)


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O hey there
Rip me,left 6% to lvl 100
look like I have to wait till wed to lvl


Hi!

So close to 100 :/

Hopefully you will hit level 100 next week ^^


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Would like to add that I found an annoying bug, not sure if it's isolated or some of you might suffer from it without knowing what is causing it ;)

if you have a cast when dmg taken link in clayshaper, it removes the 4th golem whenever its procs....


Hey :)

It's not a bug. Clayshaper is actually equipped with "Hidden" Stone Golem gem. Cast when damage taken sees it and its low enough level to be cast by CWDT1. So when you take damage, CWDT summones all linked gems plus Stone GOlem which removes one of your Flame Golems to keep Golem count on 4x. None of the CWDT links should ever me linked to Clayshaper.


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It appears that second chart is for *monster* golem damage, presumably when you find these golems in the wild. The chart also starts at 34, so I don't think it has anything to do with gems. So maybe there is no good solid source of info for this kind of stuff.


Hello :)

The second chart is also about same Golems. Second chart does not report gem level, but you can check needed level requirement from first and second chart (as level 20 gem = level 70 player level requirement)
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
Last edited by mika2salo#7776 on Oct 1, 2017, 7:42:23 PM
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mika2salo wrote:
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BLACKPANTHERVII wrote:
Hey Mika any chance of an Uber Atziri video or a run down on what is best to run for her. I don't have all the gear yet. still running 5link rare regalia armour and have about 8.6k ESHP


Hello :)

I will make Uber Atziri video as soon as i get enough pieces to run the map again. Drops have always been terrible for me there, so I haven't been in hurry to buy it.

If you are Elementalist you can do Uber Atziri prbably very soon as the trio is your biggest problem and not atziri. With Necromancer you need heavy defenses for Golems to be able to tank Double flameblast. If you get tons of Shaper and Uber sets, you can spec into Elementalist from Necromancer for the boss farming and then back.



I'm a necromancer and not really packing the points to respec. Is it literally that much harder for a necromancer? During normal Atziri I always found the trio were so so easy but Atziri still had some punch. It is weird if now it has flipped for Uber version
Last edited by BLACKPANTHERVII#2455 on Oct 2, 2017, 5:35:00 AM

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