Duelist - [3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam - Forum

Kira414, thanks for the build - enjoying it immensely. I just wanted to ask, which cyclone lab enchant would you say is better for the devotos? Attack speed or damage? I presume attack speed is better as it allows molten burst to proc more? Last edited by Xulgar#4473 on Apr 1, 2017, 7:37:27 PM	Posted by Xulgar#4473 on Apr 1, 2017, 4:12:53 PM Quote this Post
First off, I am loving this build so far, but I feel like I am missing something from my setup. What of my gear would you suggest upgrading? I'm not entirely sure what I am missing but I feel pretty squish. I am working on upgrading some of my jewels. Current Gear Spoiler Alternatively as a chest piece, I was using this with all the linked gems from the Bronns I think the ruby band is next to upgrade with a strength + life + lightning res ring. Is there anything else I am missing, because I feel pretty squishy. I have ~6k life and 300ES, and every res is over-cap aside from lightining (142). Last edited by nitsuku#2038 on Apr 1, 2017, 6:28:26 PM	Posted by nitsuku#2038 on Apr 1, 2017, 5:32:10 PM Quote this Post
Well here's me Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler My passive tree is a little more towards life and tankyness but yeah, fun stuff! I think i just need to get some pricey flasks and maybe more res. Edit: added spoilers twitch.tv/VtuberLunartuna Last edited by Lunartuna#7274 on Apr 2, 2017, 9:00:52 AM	Posted by Lunartuna#7274 on Apr 1, 2017, 6:49:42 PM Quote this Post
" Lunartuna wrote: Spoiler That sir is some nice MTX! Mine is below, but not as creative as yours :). Phoenix armor with Infernal Axe skin. Spoiler IGN: Sweethart Last edited by haenic#2566 on Apr 1, 2017, 7:40:10 PM	Posted by haenic#2566 on Apr 1, 2017, 7:37:22 PM Quote this Post
" Lunartuna wrote: Spoiler My passive tree is a little more towards life and tankyness but yeah, fun stuff! I think i just need to get some pricey flasks and maybe more res. the power of iron reflexes,love that passive <3 Last edited by Taka101#0102 on Apr 1, 2017, 9:36:32 PM	Posted by Taka101#0102 on Apr 1, 2017, 9:33:44 PM Quote this Post
" areukiddingme wrote: My ventors gone for 8 ex so im gonna get Dying Sun, will i be able to kill Shaper with my current gear?And Vaal Temple? upd: Vaal temple completed, died twice. 1 death when i was facetanking all 3 guys, then i kiting them around by using quicksilver flask so i killed the ranged one that way. Then i easily killed dual-wielding guy and just facetanked the last one till he died and after that i died too because of his bleeding. 125/126 completed, shaper remains(and uber atziri). Grats on the Vaal Temple clear! You can refer to @redviles's post on what kind of stats he was using when he clear Shaper in 2.5. _____________________________________________________________________________ " haenic wrote: Pushing it to the next level.... I wanted to start this post by thanking many of the posters in this thread and especially @Kira1414. This is the first build that I have ever spent this much time on and I wanted to share with everyone some of my findings. Again, I spent a lot of time talking to Kira1414 and almost all of the ideas for things to try were his. I was basically the canvas if you will :). I played the standard build to level 90 with 5L carcass jack. As many of you found, damage was great but at 5600 health (only 1 max life jewel) it was squishy on rippy bosses (Esh, Xoph, 1 shot by Izaro on 4- 5 key runs if not careful, etc). I then started thinking about the Cospri's version that someone posted in the thread. I bought one and threw it in the stash. Then ater some more reading, I got crazy one night bought a 1ex Enlighten lvl3 and vaal or no balls'd it into Enlighten lvl4 (which is required for Cospri's version). At this point I figured... why not.... let's go crazy... Without further ado, I present Cospri's Flame (or Ngamahu's Will maybe? we could take a vote!): Spoiler Char: GreatBallsOfFire_ (all values, buffed standing in Hideout) lvl: 91 life: 5,434 resists: fire: 162% cold: 153% light: 185% chaos: 51% (-9%) armor: 2208 (15% reduction) evade chance: 27% (44% with enfeeble) Cyclone: DPS: 39718.06 (6Link with conc effect) Chance to hit: 88% (see gear discussion for details) APS: 5.43 (would be more with frenzy charges from Blood rage) Crit chance: 15.66% (see gear discussion for details) Crit chance: 23.94% (this is in hideout with boot enchant "120% increased critical strike chance if you haven't crit recently") Molten Burst: Number of projectiles: 7 Damage per ball: 9163.88 Chance to hit: 88% APS: 2.54 Crit chance: 6.05% (see gear discussion for details) Crit chance: 12.05% (this is in hideout with boot enchant "120% increased critical strike chance if you haven't crit recently") The gear Jewels: Flasks: amazing for extra boss damage, however i can't use right now because lightning resist is highe than fire: extra life for lab running: Current lvl 91 tree: Elemental Overload - Ignite version www.poeurl.com/beVB Lvl 93 Cospri's version from Kira1414's guide that I am using www.poeurl.com/beVD Discussion on Cospri's vs Standard Build vs Bronn's Lithe chest. Let's get one thing straight right away. Cospri's version and tree are never going to give you the same tooltip DPS as the standard build. So if you are looking to switch make sure you understand this. On a 5Link Carcass I was pushing 60,000 tooltip dps on cyclone and 10k molten burst per ball (remember i had damage jewels that were missing +% to max life) and was sitting at 5.6k health. You do get the ignite damage from the EO tree, but for chaining t11 I did notice the cyclone dps drop from 60k dps in 5L carcass to 25k dps in 5L Cospri's (this is with enfeeble as 2nd curse). What Cospri's does provide is options in the form of dual curses and the ability to dynamically adjust damage or survive-ability based on the content you are running. If you want to approach values similar to Standard build cyclone damage you can run Flammability + Elemental Weakness, but in the end I don't think it is needed and you are losing the major benefit of survive-ability if you drop enfeeble (or even more survive-ability if you go enfeeble + temp chains). Taking Bronn's Lithe vs a dual curse Cospri's I don't think was worth it given my current setup. The added movement speed was nice for mapping and perhaps swapping out for t11 and below would be fine as survive-ability is less of an issue. I ran some numbers with 4L Bronn's and 4L Cospri's and by losing the second curse you defense take too great a hit. The real benefit to Bronn's is the extremely fast movement speed, but not going to help for Uber Atziri, Shaper, Guardians. Damage wise with Bronn's I actually get more damage if I drop enfeeble in the Cospri's setup and put Flamm + Elemental Weakness in, so it literally is about the movement speed. I want to take this build and try out Uber Atziri, Guardians, and Shaper. Those are the real tests, so far the only thing I know the build can't do is hall of the grandmasters. Just too many masters that have insane damage. Next post I will go over crafting and mats spent (approximately) on the gear. I will also talk about what else I need to work on to finalize the build. Wow! That was a very detailed writeup on your venture with Cospri's Will! And between Cospri's Flame and Ngamahu's Will, both are really good way to name it. I suppose Ngamahu's Will is more suitable since the build is only made possible because of the axe? Coloring for Cospri's Will and getting BBBB is definitely a pain on strength gears. I burned through 2000 chromatics trying to get the colors on my standard guy. Definitely a currency burner. For those going for Flammability + Temporal Chain curse, use Devoto for the coloring, since it is easier to get BBBG on Devoto because it has dex component. I will be referencing your 2 posts in the guide under Cospri's Will section. They will greatly help players who want to take the same path as you. Thanks again! _____________________________________________________________________________ " Xulgar wrote: Kira414, thanks for the build - enjoying it immensely. I just wanted to ask, which cyclone lab enchant would you say is better for the devotos? Attack speed or damage? I presume attack speed is better as it allows molten burst to proc more? I am inclined towards attack speed since it provide more burst and leech. _____________________________________________________________________________ " nitsuku wrote: First off, I am loving this build so far, but I feel like I am missing something from my setup. What of my gear would you suggest upgrading? I'm not entirely sure what I am missing but I feel pretty squish. I am working on upgrading some of my jewels. Current Gear Spoiler Alternatively as a chest piece, I was using this with all the linked gems from the Bronns I think the ruby band is next to upgrade with a strength + life + lightning res ring. Is there anything else I am missing, because I feel pretty squishy. I have ~6k life and 300ES, and every res is over-cap aside from lightining (142). Your Oblivion Band can roll fire damage to physical damage. It will give you more damage output. And yes, you can certainly look into replacing that ring for another that provide you more resistance too. Your gloves armour rating is low but you have Commandment of Fury enchant on it. Guess this is going to be hard to replace for you. Do you have 3000 armour on your character? 3000 armour is the breakpoint allowing you to tank most content with assist from Granite + Taste of Hate flask. Do you use Enduring Cry? I always manual cast that before engaging in a fight. Together with the flasks, you can tank through Porcupines too. _____________________________________________________________________________ " Lunartuna wrote: Well here's me Spoiler Spoiler My passive tree is a little more towards life and tankyness but yeah, fun stuff! I think i just need to get some pricey flasks and maybe more res. That armour rating from Iron Reflexes is impressive! Uber Izaro is probably a joke to you now. _____________________________________________________________________________ " haenic wrote: " Lunartuna wrote: Spoiler That sir is some nice MTX! Mine is below, but not as creative as yours :). Phoenix armor with Infernal Axe skin. Spoiler And I was thinking of the newly introduced Deicide Armour Set. It look so perfect for fire builds. Pretty much waiting for it to go into discount and I will definitely get this baby. ;)	Posted by kira1414#3753 on Apr 1, 2017, 11:19:48 PM Quote this Post
I just got this bad boy! UberIzaro down at lvl 77 facetanking, still need to be carefull with 4600 HP + 3000armour but doable!	Posted by riddim#7851 on Apr 2, 2017, 8:53:44 AM Quote this Post
" haenic wrote: " Lunartuna wrote: Spoiler That sir is some nice MTX! Mine is below, but not as creative as yours :). Phoenix armor with Infernal Axe skin. Spoiler Haha I don't know, I think like your mtx better than mine, you look like a god or something! " kira1414 wrote: That armour rating from Iron Reflexes is impressive! Uber Izaro is probably a joke to you now. He really is. Same with porcupines with crazy map mods, dont even need to flask for them anymore. It's time to learn the harder fights and attempt that stuff. I'll update if I get anything impressive down. " riddim wrote: I just got this bad boy! UberIzaro down at lvl 77 facetanking, still need to be carefull with 4600 HP + 3000armour but doable! That is my dream belt! HP, Armour, tri-res, WED.... very nice! twitch.tv/VtuberLunartuna Last edited by Lunartuna#7274 on Apr 2, 2017, 9:37:26 AM	Posted by Lunartuna#7274 on Apr 2, 2017, 9:01:53 AM Quote this Post
Gear setup Spoiler I also have 3 jewels with max hp, phys dmg, some ignite/added int, going for the 4th socket for more hp. Got all the HP nodes in the recommended, and the rest fire and phys dmg. Level 85. I cannot do the tier 15 maps (only tried Dark Forest). Still dying in Palace at tier 14 about once per run, either to some weird ass mobs or jumping too late from the boss' one shot. I have about 6400 hp. Any tips? I have about 100c worth of currency to buy stuff. So no Xoph. Also dont have 1 trial so I cant farm Uber lab yet. Last edited by Zalmoxis#6725 on Apr 2, 2017, 12:00:52 PM	Posted by Zalmoxis#6725 on Apr 2, 2017, 11:52:18 AM Quote this Post
Thanks for this guide, pretty cheap and easy to handle, buyed my carcass for 30 co and 6linked it with 49 fuses LOL, unbuffed in town cyclone is at 80k dps, on map with all passives skills, flask,golem+totem and vaal haste i reach almost 200k dps, taking uber izaro down in like 5-6 seconds in each phase, i have 5 exalts left, is there something left to improve? ele-refelct can be handled with a normal ruby flask if needed, rings with 30-40% elemental dmg improved my dmg unbuffed by 4-5k dps for each one, but i dont feel like i really need it right now :), took cheap rings for more life, here my gear: Last edited by Rapgano#4753 on Apr 2, 2017, 1:38:48 PM	Posted by Rapgano#4753 on Apr 2, 2017, 1:35:47 PM Quote this Post