[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

Hi guys, Im having a bit of a problem here. Why am I getting more DPS on Herald of Ash and a normal jewel on my tree, than having Watcher's eye ( with phy to fire with anger ) + Anger.

With ash my DPS can reach 134k with 3 Frenzy and full flasks
While my DPS can only reach 106K With watcher's eye and Anger.

Please inspect my character on STD. Thank you!
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Paxx0214 wrote:
Hi guys, Im having a bit of a problem here. Why am I getting more DPS on Herald of Ash and a normal jewel on my tree, than having Watcher's eye ( with phy to fire with anger ) + Anger.

With ash my DPS can reach 134k with 3 Frenzy and full flasks
While my DPS can only reach 106K With watcher's eye and Anger.

Please inspect my character on STD. Thank you!

You got the wrong version of Watcher's Eye.

You will want "Gain #% physical damage as extra fire damage when affected by Anger".
Hey man, i'm having a great time with the scion version of this build, can do practically anything with it, Uber Lab is a breeze.

However, i'm having some trouble with the Shaper, i can damage him well which is not the problem, i think.

My problem is that he can instakill me with some of his skills, like the ground slam and that beam.

So, i was wondering if there's anything i can do to improve the survivability of my build (It's the AuriScion character in my profile).

P.S: I've 5.5k of life, is that too low for this build?
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auri_19 wrote:
Hey man, i'm having a great time with the scion version of this build, can do practically anything with it, Uber Lab is a breeze.

However, i'm having some trouble with the Shaper, i can damage him well which is not the problem, i think.

My problem is that he can instakill me with some of his skills, like the ground slam and that beam.

So, i was wondering if there's anything i can do to improve the survivability of my build (It's the AuriScion character in my profile).

P.S: I've 5.5k of life, is that too low for this build?

Your Ngamahu axe pDPS is on the low end. You will want 410 pDPS and at least 11% increased attack speed on Ngamahu.

You do not have Fortify gem linked to Leap Slam or Cyclone. You will be taking a lot more damage without it.

Your Cyclone is using Increased Area gem instead of Concentrated. You will want to use Concentrated against end game boss like Shaper.

Shaper's Slam and beam attacks can both be evaded. When he disappear, just leap away and you will be able avoid his slam attack. For the beam, just cyclone behind him and the beam won't be dealing damage on you.

Running Watcher's Eye with "Gain #% physical damage as extra fire damage when affected with Anger" will give you more damage. You will run Anger + Herald of Ash (drop Flammability) if you do get Watcher's Eye.

For jewels, focus on life roll over damage roll. At level 90, your life should be around 6000. 5500 is little on the low side.

Consider getting Tombfist with 2 abyssal sockets. It will give you more damage and life too.

Rare Stygian belt instead of leather belt will also give you more damage and life.
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Your Ngamahu axe pDPS is on the low end. You will want 410 pDPS and at least 11% increased attack speed on Ngamahu.


I didn't know that make much difference, gonna grab me another axe then.

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You do not have Fortify gem linked to Leap Slam or Cyclone. You will be taking a lot more damage without it.


That. I think that is one of my problems, i haven't linked Fortify, because i use Champion node in the ascendency tree, but that just works for general mapping, not for bosses, since i have to kill something to proc the Fortify.

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Your Cyclone is using Increased Area gem instead of Concentrated. You will want to use Concentrated against end game boss like Shaper.


Don't mind that, i interchange those, Increased Area for general mapping and Concentrated for (tough) bosses.

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Shaper's Slam and beam attacks can both be evaded. When he disappear, just leap away and you will be able avoid his slam attack. For the beam, just cyclone behind him and the beam won't be dealing damage on you.


Yeah man, i think that is my second problem: a matter of getting good. I watched some youtube videos about killing the Shaper, but nothing like practice, to bad that each try costs me around 60c...

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For jewels, focus on life roll over damage roll. At level 90, your life should be around 6000. 5500 is little on the low side.


Right, gonna aim for 6k of life then.



As for your other items recommendations i already had those in mind, since i follow your changes in the build, but those are gonna be too expensive for me right now, and like i said in my original post i think my damage is not the problem - the first Shaper fase ended in a couple of minutes or so (most time was because of dying and having to come back)

Thanks for the reply.
Last edited by auri_19#0535 on May 22, 2018, 10:01:40 AM
Is this build still strong for clear speed?
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Naught1JJ wrote:
Is this build still strong for clear speed?

Yes. It is still strong. :)
Are you planning to update this build for 3.3?

I'm looking for a build to start off the league as an uber lab farmer. And I've never played Cyclone before, so bonus there. Plan is to level with Sunder until I can afford the Ngamahu weapon. How does this build do as a starter?
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bazqux wrote:
Are you planning to update this build for 3.3?

I'm looking for a build to start off the league as an uber lab farmer. And I've never played Cyclone before, so bonus there. Plan is to level with Sunder until I can afford the Ngamahu weapon. How does this build do as a starter?


Doesn't need updating. 3.3.0 doesn't change anything that affects this build.
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bazqux wrote:
Are you planning to update this build for 3.3?

I'm looking for a build to start off the league as an uber lab farmer. And I've never played Cyclone before, so bonus there. Plan is to level with Sunder until I can afford the Ngamahu weapon. How does this build do as a starter?

Will definitely be updating the guide for 3.3 when the new skill tree is revealed.

At this point, just like what @Soradras stated, I don't expect any changes to the skill tree.

However, I do expect a minor change in gems setup. Especially for Cyclone. Replacing Elemental Focus with Combustion (i.e. new name for Chance to Ignite). But we shall see. :)

EDIT: This build is great as a league starter as you just need Ngamahu and 5L chest and you will be able to farm Uber lab.
Last edited by kira1414#3753 on May 26, 2018, 1:33:44 AM

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