[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

i've played ST, kinetic blast with frost wall, flicker strike/reave, all with mirrored gear
and this build beats all of them so easily

tornado shot enchant + dying sun clear as fast as flicker strike 12 APS and 1,5milion dps and flicker is 10 times faster than blade flurry... barrage single target is the highest i've ever had, it's equal to 2 milion reave damage and i dont even have the barrage enchant, kinetic blast broken single target was crap compared to this.


melee defence means nothing, with this so high damage of monsters, not get hit > defence, so ranged>melee

im farming guardians with 199iiq 393iir gear, it would be impossible to do this with any other build


i did try blade flurry when it came out, i had 140k dps on lvl 10 gem and using IIQ gem linked
it was as slow as reave, now with the nerf to the radius, a 4 minutes time to clear a t15 with blade flurry, would be 3 minutes with any other bow build, i did immediately dislike it, if you can afford, flicker is the N°1 melee dagger build by far

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Aedre32 wrote:

I will agree with Rupenus that this the best bow build out there right now.

It's not. Life is still a lot more stable, but even more expensive as well, because of legacy kaom's. Skyforth are not needed, because it's quite easy to critcap without any power charges, if you are investing in highend-gear anyway. I've played all endgame-builds without mirrored, but close to gear and while the dps-potential is always comparable, but life (+eva/dodge) with acuitys and without relying on power charges is by far the most consistant and stable build.

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basta1982 wrote:

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Aedre32 wrote:

I will agree with Rupenus that this the best bow build out there right now.

It's not. Life is still a lot more stable, but even more expensive as well, because of legacy kaom's. Skyforth are not needed, because it's quite easy to critcap without any power charges, if you are investing in highend-gear anyway. I've played all endgame-builds without mirrored, but close to gear and while the dps-potential is always comparable, but life (+eva/dodge) with acuitys and without relying on power charges is by far the most consistant and stable build.

i was using leg kaoms too while i was using this build, without acuities though and with retch, that is even better : )

but we are making a build "guide" here, it doesnt make sense to write a "guide" built around legacy items.

blast didn't write this guide to show people the best bow build, the intention here was to create a build where people can use in temp leagues as well as in standard with gg gear.
putting 300ex armor in the middle of a build and centering everything around it, would be a bit pointless idea

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Rupenus wrote:

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basta1982 wrote:

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Aedre32 wrote:

I will agree with Rupenus that this the best bow build out there right now.

It's not. Life is still a lot more stable, but even more expensive as well, because of legacy kaom's. Skyforth are not needed, because it's quite easy to critcap without any power charges, if you are investing in highend-gear anyway. I've played all endgame-builds without mirrored, but close to gear and while the dps-potential is always comparable, but life (+eva/dodge) with acuitys and without relying on power charges is by far the most consistant and stable build.

i was using leg kaoms too while i was using this build, without acuities though and with retch, that is even better : )

but we are making a build "guide" here, it doesnt make sense to write a "guide" built around legacy items.

blast didn't write this guide to show people the best bow build, the intention here was to create a build where people can use in temp leagues as well as in standard with gg gear.
putting 300ex armor in the middle of a build and centering everything around it, would be a bit pointless idea

My statement was just about the quoted one. The guide has it's use and place for sure.

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Rupenus wrote:

blast didn't write this guide to show people the best bow build, the intention here was to create a build where people can use in temp leagues as well as in standard with gg gear.
putting 300ex armor in the middle of a build and centering everything around it, would be a bit pointless idea

but this build is trash compared to other builds that require less investment in temp leagues. the only way to make this build a "GG bow build" is with legacy and mirrored gear on standard, which is something i dont give a shit about anyways.

don't go spewing out that this build is "budget" viable or "temp league" friendly because it's not. plain and simple. It is not. I have tried both "budget" and mid-tier gear, and all the way up to as high-end gear as I can get on breach and it's still very mediocre. Simply put, I was not satisfied with the way it performed despite the amount of currency I had invested into the build.

I am sure it's great and can replicate what the OP gif shows in standard with a brood twine + other legacy and mirrored gear. But if anyone reading this thinking about trying it on a temp league, please just save yourself some time (a lot of time) and currency (also a lot) and play another build. This shit really isn't all that impressive.

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MFJones wrote:

I am sure it's great and can replicate what the OP gif shows in standard with a brood twine + other legacy and mirrored gear. But if anyone reading this thinking about trying it on a temp league, please just save yourself some time (a lot of time) and currency (also a lot) and play another build. This shit really isn't all that impressive.

Agreed. Phys.-(conversion)-Bow-Builds in general start to shine (and overpower any other bow-build), if you got at least great bow and decent jewellery. Doesn't really matter, if es- or life-based in the first place. Obtaining those stuff at temp-leagues isn't something to calculate with since RotC has been nerfed.

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but this build is trash compared to other builds that require less investment in temp leagues. the only way to make this build a "GG bow build" is with legacy and mirrored gear on standard, which is something i dont give a shit about anyways.

you always come to the same point even though people state counter arguments which makes sense. blast killed shaper with 5l rotc too, and blast is only using 36% wed rings(has no flat phys on them even) and his amulet wasnt mirrored. he is my guildmate, i know his gear very well. blast is like 5 times more richer than me, my whole gear while testing the build was mirrored + leg kaoms but he has no single mirrored item besides brood twine.

i see that you tried and you didnt like the build, i respect that.

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MFJones wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

blast didn't write this guide to show people the best bow build, the intention here was to create a build where people can use in temp leagues as well as in standard with gg gear.
putting 300ex armor in the middle of a build and centering everything around it, would be a bit pointless idea

but this build is trash compared to other builds that require less investment in temp leagues. the only way to make this build a "GG bow build" is with legacy and mirrored gear on standard, which is something i dont give a shit about anyways.

don't go spewing out that this build is "budget" viable or "temp league" friendly because it's not. plain and simple. It is not. I have tried both "budget" and mid-tier gear, and all the way up to as high-end gear as I can get on breach and it's still very mediocre. Simply put, I was not satisfied with the way it performed despite the amount of currency I had invested into the build.

I am sure it's great and can replicate what the OP gif shows in standard with a brood twine + other legacy and mirrored gear. But if anyone reading this thinking about trying it on a temp league, please just save yourself some time (a lot of time) and currency (also a lot) and play another build. This shit really isn't all that impressive.

in your opinion what makes a build temp league friendly? how can you say this build is mediocre on temp leagues?

I do not get all the hate. I do not play new leagues that much and usually dabble in HC when I do play yet that is due to my time constraints. I could easily enter a new league and make this build work well. It may not be able to melt sharper lol or t-16 bosses like end game gear yet what happened to the old school bow players that know that not every build means standing in front of a boss, etc. and not having to move around, dodge, etc. Cmon people, no pun intended, this build is very new league viable. If you are trying to just follow this guide and tree exactly like the creator/OP then maybe you are not putting enough thought into the mechanics of the build and play style. People that play bow builds have always wanted a viable ES/Ci build. Now you have it. Or you can think out of the box a little and use Life/ES. The conversion from physical to elemental still works fine.

I for one have played so many different builds over the years. Some cookie cutter builds (none of the newer ones with blades and all lol) yet come on. People that say you need 100 ex in a new league to make this build work are just not being truthful. If all you want to do is run up to a boss with no thought about the boss you are fighting and the mechanics of the game then, well, you may be right you do need 100EX + gears yet players that know how to move around, dodge, think about game mechanics, etc. should have no problem making some changes to items and tree issues and making the build work. It may not melt sharper in 15 seconds yet is is very sharper viable.

Sorry to jump in on some of this yet IMO the original creator/poster of the build did a great all around job with how they presented this build.

Just my 2 cents.