[2.6] SignalShot™ CI Full Ele Conversion TS/Barrage / Shaper & Uber Deathless / with video!

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Rivx wrote:

Why use added fire as the last Barrage link? We already have 116% added damage (30% PtL, 35% Signal Fire, 36% Hatred, 15% HoA), so AF only adds like 20% more damage. Why not just use slower proj instead for 30% more, or is the projectile speed actually a concern? Or possibly fire pen, it should provide a bigger boost against resistant enemies.

i tested: slow projectiles gives 2% dps more in town, while auras on the difference gets up to 8%(slow proj deals better damage) i just don't like to delayed leech possibly might happen due to slow projectiles so for LA i wouşdnt use that, however,

slow proje seems like a good idea vs bosses but for map clearing i wouldnt use that.

i did this test with high dps harbinger, if you have RoTC test for us and tell us the results.

thanks for the idea.

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pathofexiletoon wrote:

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MFJones wrote:

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pathofexiletoon wrote:

Played it with RoTC for a long time. Can assure ur just wrong buddy. Anyways, KoTF is a really nice build. Hope you enjoy ;)

Oh, were you able to melt shaper and other guardians within 20 seconds with your RoTC variant?

Its his own variant. And I did shaper with no problems. Its pretty ok if u play better then a 4 year old.
Got a mirrored bow now, so I joined the 20 seconds party. If you want to play a build only to do this kinda stuff on a 2ex budget, Vaal Righteous Fire is the way to go.
I'm not related to the topic owner in any way btw. So no need to take this personal. But this build is awesome even with RoTC, its a simple fact. Too bad you experience with it was not good man...

Lol fyi I tried the build on Breach league with about 80 ex worth of gear not including the skyforths i pulled from my other char.

Shit build is shit without mirrored gear/300+ exalt investment, sorry. Stop trying to mislead people into trying this currency trap of a build.

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MFJones wrote:

Lol fyi I tried the build on Breach league with about 80 ex worth of gear not including the skyforths i pulled from my other char.

Shit build is shit without mirrored gear/300+ exalt investment, sorry. Stop trying to mislead people into trying this currency trap of a build.

gear

Not anybody's fault but yours you can't make this build work wich such investiment. I'm not part of any conspiracy to induce people to do this build. Face reality. But i guess anyone who actually read your posts already knows who is right here fella, must be terrible spending 80ex+ on any build and not be able to make it work properly. My condolences.

lmao you're missing the point

This build is NOT viable for most people in temp leagues.

It is misleading to say that the build can melt shaper/uber with "budget" gear. The truth is, if you want to perform anywhere near as close to OP then you absolutely NEED mirrored/legacy gear. Otherwise, this build is shit compared to other bow builds when it comes to the currency investment needed to perform.

The DPS is great but I've played much better and safer builds with less than half the currency investment needed. The amount of currency needed to make this build even as comparable to something like QotF is just embarrassing to say the least. I mean, you can pretty much say any build is good if you can afford to buy/mirror insane #1 GG BiS items on Standard league.

A cookie cutter Blade flurry build with 10 ex can clear just as fast as this build, and be able to do high-end bosses/guardians/shaper much safer

tl;dr- If you're playing breach/any temp league, save yourself some time/money and play another bow build that requires 10% or less currency investment to perform the same or better. If you're playing on standard and have multiple mirrors worth of currency then go ahead and get yourself a brood twine and 900+ ES chest and play. This build is pretty mediocre otherwise.

Guys for all you say its shit build wo mirrored gear pls look thats my gear on standard lets count boots aboute 40 ex, chest 40 ex,bow 40 ex,rest of gear i caft my self so duno aboute cost ( yeah my gloves its nice :) so its even not close to 300 ex and in start of guide you can rea its not cheap build anyway i am curently exping from 98 to 99 and its fine rly fine. I dont think i have any issue duno shit aboute shaper and uber since i was not try it and i dont care couse hit lvl 100 its more important for me right now.
But in my opinion i am play in poe aboute 3 years i remember times when killing normal atziri was terible hard now any build can do that ANY ! wo items worth more than 1 ex so ? now you expect to stand before strongest boss ig and youst kil him with 10 sec wo any risk ? seariously ? if you move some times and dodge sime times it wil make you more skiled player so pls guys youst learn mor aboute build .This build for me on start was hard also but i know i must learn it so i was do this and now i have so much fun, and you expect from build witch one have so expensive core items to be playable with fev ex then yes it its shit but its your fail not from build .
Peac gread job p1rfection keep going i love your build even they are terible cost :)
Sry for my bad english

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MFJones wrote:

lmao you're missing the point

This build is NOT viable for most people in temp leagues.

It is misleading to say that the build can melt shaper/uber with "budget" gear. The truth is, if you want to perform anywhere near as close to OP then you absolutely NEED mirrored/legacy gear. Otherwise, this build is shit compared to other bow builds when it comes to the currency investment needed to perform.

The DPS is great but I've played much better and safer builds with less than half the currency investment needed. The amount of currency needed to make this build even as comparable to something like QotF is just embarrassing to say the least. I mean, you can pretty much say any build is good if you can afford to buy/mirror insane #1 GG BiS items on Standard league.

A cookie cutter Blade flurry build with 10 ex can clear just as fast as this build, and be able to do high-end bosses/guardians/shaper much safer

tl;dr- If you're playing breach/any temp league, save yourself some time/money and play another bow build that requires 10% or less currency investment to perform the same or better. If you're playing on standard and have multiple mirrors worth of currency then go ahead and get yourself a brood twine and 900+ ES chest and play. This build is pretty mediocre otherwise.

I guess I can fully agree with most of those statements. However i think 50ex+ gear already makes this a pretty damn good build. Anyways. Enjoy the game dude.

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MFJones wrote:

lmao you're missing the point

This build is NOT viable for most people in temp leagues.

It is misleading to say that the build can melt shaper/uber with "budget" gear. The truth is, if you want to perform anywhere near as close to OP then you absolutely NEED mirrored/legacy gear. Otherwise, this build is shit compared to other bow builds when it comes to the currency investment needed to perform.

The DPS is great but I've played much better and safer builds with less than half the currency investment needed. The amount of currency needed to make this build even as comparable to something like QotF is just embarrassing to say the least. I mean, you can pretty much say any build is good if you can afford to buy/mirror insane #1 GG BiS items on Standard league.

A cookie cutter Blade flurry build with 10 ex can clear just as fast as this build, and be able to do high-end bosses/guardians/shaper much safer

tl;dr- If you're playing breach/any temp league, save yourself some time/money and play another bow build that requires 10% or less currency investment to perform the same or better. If you're playing on standard and have multiple mirrors worth of currency then go ahead and get yourself a brood twine and 900+ ES chest and play. This build is pretty mediocre otherwise.

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This build is NOT viable for most people in temp leagues.

agree, this build is for those who knows how to farm in temp leagues efficiently. this build would just bring more frustration to starters.

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save yourself some time/money and play another bow build that requires 10% or less currency investment to perform the same or better

there are no better build than this for bows, this build offers the ultimate power level with attack based builds. there are no better, but there are more efficient and more starter friendly/budget friendly builds for sure, probably this is the least budget friendly one when it comes to that.
also i must say that leg reach or any 400+ dps harbinger does the job pretty well with this build. this build reminds me mages in old FRP games, where you couldnt do any shit at start but at late game you bring death to everyone with abi dhalzim's horrid wilting and delayed fireball etc.

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A cookie cutter Blade flurry build with 10 ex can clear just as fast as this build, and be able to do high-end bosses/guardians/shaper much safer

true, but
this is not "our" fault, this is GGG's merchandising strategies fault, they add broken stuff to game on daily basis, but when it comes to have best dps, and best boss performance, attack based expensive bow builds perform still the best. actually the best by miles.

you know LL ST days? where 0.01% of people could only do über and 1% can only enter über atziri? LL ST days, where you need at least 600ex(600ex in those days!) to make your build work?
this is new LL ST in 2.5 which requires around 30ex-80ex to work.(work = obliterate shaper) Non starter friendly, hard to gear up, can be challenging at start but if you know how to farm in leagues and get good gears, in 6 man party while all those blade flurry or whatever guys are struggling with bosses everybody just watches you to melt bosses singlehandedly.
and for that you just need 400 pdps bow, how to scale global penetration, how to scale dps with your budget limit.

Shit build is shit build guys :[ ...










Lol just kidding. The build is really strong. You don't need mirrored gears to melt bosses. I literally 100-0'ed uber atziri clones as soon as they spawned and I don't even have +2 barrage enchant helm or +1 arrow signal fire quiver but even without those I can melt everything pretty comfortably.

To those complaining - keep in mind guys that this is still a crit based bow build and like any other crit based bow build it requires some good investment to get you going because 80-90% scaling in such builds comes from gears. Back in days when I was playing phys crit TS ranger I failed uber atziri hard and I had like 400 pdps bow iirc. With this build though I facerolled uber atziri and my legacy rotc cost me like half the price of my old pdps bow.

TL;DR - I will agree with Rupenus that this the best bow build out there right now. Is it expensive? sure , but also the one that has insane scaling potential if you are willing to invest time and money into it. Thanks for this awesome build guys :)

Can someone check my gear that im using at the moment? i do more dmg on KOTF thats on standard. Kinda sad you put the investment into this build and it cant perform :(

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Matt_Senpai wrote:

Can someone check my gear that im using at the moment? i do more dmg on KOTF thats on standard. Kinda sad you put the investment into this build and it cant perform :(

Seems like your toon is not geared atm and also not high level. But looking the gear you have on the assasin/ES pieces scattered trough the others. I can already tell you have pretty bad jewelery (purelly defensive, no/low wed,phys,acc), also low ES gear and no extra projectiles. At your budget stick to KoTF, will be the best choice no doubt.