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Rupenus wrote:
how we gonna leech with vinktar then? lets say vinktar converts our 10% phys damage to light, you'll leech 20% of it, which is 2%
isn't having 50% converted light damage and leeching 20% better which equals to 10%(5x more?)
this build has no dps problem, our problem is establishing a good survivability and flask sustainability. thats why we dont make this build with raider.
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Cant you get enough flat dmg on gear?
Didnt know damage is no problem, i thought you need really good jewellery etc. for it. I only play leagues and not std so for a first build its a possibility i guess. And with the reduced reflect damage taken you might not need that much leech anymore.
Guess i wont start it, pretty unreliable to push ladder playing a completely new build :P
Was just excited the build got changed in a big way.
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I dono, 10% less reflect is still quite more than enough to one shot yourself.
of course you dont use full ele, full dps modes/gems while mapping dude. we are talking about boss fights.
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Posted byRupenus#5905on Mar 1, 2017, 9:24:41 PM
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Ive got the feeling only STD players are playing this build xD
I certainly wont be able to get a 600 dps bow first week of the league.
Also no gg endgame mirrored rings/amu.
Guess i go spark, is probably just as fast with 10% of the investment with a necro support anyway.
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Posted byCptQaoz#6689on Mar 1, 2017, 9:29:52 PM
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Rupenus wrote:
of course you dont use full ele, full dps modes/gems while mapping dude. we are talking about boss fights.
Eh? People swap stuff out to be only 50% conversion during maps? o.O
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Posted bylinkstatic#6621on Mar 1, 2017, 9:30:16 PM
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Rupenus wrote:
this build has no dps problem, our problem is establishing a good survivability and flask sustainability. that's why we don't make this build with raider.
can you elaborate on that? I made a comparison on the last page between raider and pathfinder and I don't see why it's survivability would be less.
Also, I asked why we use chain (instead of slower proj, fork, etc.) is it because our pierce chance is not high enough to justify it or some other reason?
I haven't build it out perfectly yet so excuse my ignorance.
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Posted byviper9494#1345on Mar 1, 2017, 9:52:01 PM
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CptQaoz wrote:
Ive got the feeling only STD players are playing this build xD
I certainly wont be able to get a 600 dps bow first week of the league.
Also no gg endgame mirrored rings/amu.
Guess i go spark, is probably just as fast with 10% of the investment with a necro support anyway.
Please by all means go play spark.
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Posted bySolishaw#0089on Mar 1, 2017, 10:19:07 PM
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blasting_cap wrote:
Here is a tentative new tree (take VP if non legacy vinktar)
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIAAAHRBfkIiQ5IDlwPqw_EES8RUBGBFHUV1xa_GYoZ1xqPGyUdTyF2JIsknST9KgsrCiy_LR8wWzB8Mfo1uTfUOdQ7fEQNRX5JUUmxS65Ms1BCUUdTNVZjVvpbr11oXfJfamJaY6dq-m0ZbWxwUnb3d9d4-X7dfyt_xoTFhq6GzonTjDaNuY_6kyeVBZUglwaa8Zsmm7Wgn6EioS-iQKKjpMKnK6fUrTOv67VIuMq-Or6KwQDBM8HFwfPDOsSiyPDKqdAf0NDTftfP2VvdRt-Y51TndOkC62PsGO0_7g7veu-I7-vw1fT49Uv22vk3-wn9bv7I_94=
Load this in the new OFFLINE poe tree planner.
TLDR: It seems we've gotten decent damage buffs for "free" due to the tree changes. Also there's a trick with a specific jewel I might want to try in the near future. :x
We dodged another patch boys. Rejoice. Reach got destroyed (rip in council), death's opus the new "budget" oriented bow. With brief testing with old tree, it's hitting decent results.
This build is more than 2.6 viable, it literally will be stronger than it's ever been. Crazy.
Cheers!
Hmm, not taking an extra Power Charge this time round?
As of right now no, it's a tentative tree though, that being said I'm quite happy with it.
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Posted bySolishaw#0089on Mar 1, 2017, 10:21:45 PM
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Hi, I was wondering if there is any leveling version for this build?
I just got back to PoE recently and had a lot of reading to go through
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Posted byNgau#2103on Mar 1, 2017, 11:57:00 PM
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Hi, I was wondering if there is any leveling version for this build?
I just got back to PoE recently and had a lot of reading to go through
Starting from nothing, you're gonna want to spec into Life first and as you accumulate better gear, respec into CI and ES nodes. This is not a cheap build, nor a starter build.
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Posted bylinkstatic#6621on Mar 2, 2017, 12:50:17 AM
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Any thoughts using the lioneye's jewel near the shadow claw areas for crit, crit multi and leech?
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Posted byOhaithere#3308on Mar 2, 2017, 2:08:40 AM
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Any thoughts using the lioneye's jewel near the shadow claw areas for crit, crit multi and leech?
clever. thats what we think of using for budget variant, non-leg vinktar one. thats possibly the best idea.
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Posted byRupenus#5905on Mar 2, 2017, 2:16:43 AM
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