The pathfinder nerf is coming...

... in 3 months ^^

According to a sample of the top 2000 in the actual league, 20% of the player base is playing pathfinder (probably the BV build). That remind me of the Juggernaut sample last league and we all knows what happen to it....

fyndel bv is pathfinder right? might be the reason since he is first to post shaper items and it made big impression on reddit.

BTW they might just nerf BV lol

nah, the OP part about pathfinder is that she can generate ANY flask charges by just doing crits.

this is totally unacceptable. Flasks are very strong because they have limited of use. In pve, thanks to charge mechanic of blade vortex in 1-2 seconds you can get max vinktar charges.

this is going to be nerfed for sure, and needs to be nerfed.

vinktar is the most OP shit in the game, even leg kaoms is nothing compared to it.

rumi and leg kaoms comes second.

Fyndel might be contributing, but it's not the only reason. Since perandus, the top ranger build has been this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1634532

playing pathfinder is like playing the game with training wheels on. Combine that with a skill where all you have to do is walk into your enemies, then yeah lol...

Expecting pathfinder nerf too, its needed and will make whole game more heatly pve/pvp. On another note leg koams and rumi are fine nowadays, without pf you can easily drain or work around rumi. The only thing it remains a problem for is aegis but the prob is aegis itself.

yeah rumi is fine. +50 block for 8 seconds just with witch alchemist nodes. 50 block is like 50-60 points of investment.

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Rupenus wrote:

yeah rumi is fine. +50 block for 8 seconds just with witch alchemist nodes. 50 block is like 50-60 points of investment.

It's fine when you can't use it an unlimited amount of time but when you combine it with the pathfinder ability to get charges and the retch, it start to get broken.

i think it has always been broken. it gets more and more broken which each patch.

10 seconds of rumi and 5 seconds of rumi dont make difference for BV, or for any one shotting skill. then again, what doesnt one shot nowadays? all battles gets decided in 1-5 seconds.

In addition to the pathfinder nerf, Alchemist node should be reworded to effect only non-unique flasks.

I also did BV at the start of league for the new bosses, but I didn't know if pathfinder charge generation would be enough so I went with The harvest. Less ES, less dps, better flask sustain, no flask charge investment needed at all, only flask effectiveness.

However I feel this build, and the pathfinder version is broken because of BV mechanic itself, which is different from any other skill for flask charge generation afaik. Every other skill gets up to 1 charge per use. BV get's one per each hit it deals, so with base duration up to 5, which is 5 times more charges than any other skill gives. My guess is that they will change BV itself, and not pathfinder if they change anything at all.

Also If they somehow decide to change pathfinder itself, which is imo unlikely as the charge generation is pretty low already for normal skills, the mentioned property is not the strength of pathfinder, so even if they remove it, pathfinders remain the same for pvp.