2.3.0 Changes to the High-level Experience Equation
is this why streamers quit on this league or whats with this post
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Worst change ever
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Why keep adding higher level content when it directly goes against wanting to slow down the grind to 100? It seems like if you want to add higher level content, you have to raise the level cap, otherwise you are squishing the grind from the soft level cap (used to be 85? Now 90? soon 95?) to 100.
Looks like you're painting yourself into a corner without raising the level cap. ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Give moar Power Creep Pls |
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Do you realize that even less people will try since it will become even more time consuming? People who reach 100 first are literally playing 14+ hours a day and I'm not even exaggerating. What do you wanna achieve nerfing the XP so hard? People keep saying this but you don't seem to understand: You can't balance around 1%. What incentive is there to continue playing if 100 is unattainable for people who don't wanna dedicate their whole life to PoE? With the current XP rate it takes approximately 2 month to reach 100 playing ~6h a day. Most of the people get burned out after 1-2 month, especially playing only one single build.
Last edited by eXecut1on#3516 on Jun 28, 2016, 1:10:36 AM
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these changes backfired.
its now better to level to 100 at T8 maps, then it is at T15, cause the risk and cost are now so high, that they dont compare with simply spamming tons of easy cheap maps. |
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" Aaargh :( It looks like many people like their frogs huge, but i don't and may not have bought one if they had the new size. they were fine in the original size and now look out of sort compared to other pets (cat or hedgehog for instance). My frog will be sad if it ends up staying hidden in my mtx tab instead of following me through Wraeclast. |
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As a level 98 marauder, I didn't really notice the penalty, and now I see why. The maps I do are usually tier 9-11, which are the top end of the yellow maps. The maps hit the hardest by this penalty are the red tier maps (of which maintaining is a real challenge, and why I don't generally do them). I'm not sure this is entirely the right way to go because of the clear speed meta, but it makes more sense.
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I mapped as support this league with a few of the top 5 PSC players to hit 100. While I understand and agree with the stimulus which Chris & GGG have for these exp changes, I advocate that the chosen methodology of implementation has exacerbated disincentives to running endgame challenging content, and has reinforced the pervasively growing speed mapping meta which detracts from the fun, challenge, and loot of the highest tier map content in Path of Exile.
In PSC, and progressively for a number of development cycles since the overhaul of map modifiers, the players I see successfully pushing the ladder are speed running mid tier maps (Tier 9-12) in lieu of playing content appropriate for their ability. I think it is critical to expound upon what I mean by "Speed Running" because it is a playstyle that I only observe in this tiny niche of the POE community. Builds, groups, and Map Rolling revolve around the ability to one shot every monster in the chosen tier of maps, the vast majority of loot is disabled and ignored, and there is significant priority given to sustaining obscenely high Movement Speed. The gravitation towards this Movespeed=Clearspeed, nodowntimeinstapopmapaftermapinonehideout, playstyle is Phrenetic. For me it has detracted a good deal from the depth and enrichment of what Path of Exile once was because this "Efficiency Mapping" incentives players to actively ignore many aspects of the Game Design and map in Cliques or small groups of like minded players, or Solo in this style to achieve ladder position. While there has always been a no-life element to the POE ladder, these changes further skew towards the extreme. I do not fault the players for adapting, responding, to the GGG changes in this fashion. As Chris and GGG has pointed out many times, the playerbase, even in the absence of "Access to Information" on many of the mathematical fine points of the game, the players are becoming ever more efficient at MinMaxing their builds and their playstyle. The tier 9-12 maps are sustainable indefinitely with minimal currency investment and can be run at max speed with negligible risk to grind exp. Higher tier maps are not sustainable and require currency investment that doesn't return maps or appropriate reward to the risk and differential time it takes to run them (except maybe for the first week of the league). The risks in the highest end maps often appear in Spiky forms, and are not a elegant counterbalance to play skill but rather a direct developer response to expected meta and playstyle. As more and more players and groups gravitate to this playstyle, they also withdraw, in my experience, from the broader community, trading, crafting, social aspect of POE. The SpeedMapping meta being sustainable as a solo playstyle or clique playstyle supports a narrow band focus on the "Game". It is so much more efficient at accomplishing the niche goal of pushing the ladder that traditional mapping feels slow and wasteful. It is more difficult to make new friends to play with as the lightspeed jump from normal mapping to "SpeedMapping" is very jarring for new players, or longtime players who have never pushed ladder in this fashion. This, by design, has created a, barrier to entry, a monumental disincentive to players who consider jumping into the ladder race. Basically, what I am arguing here, is to push the ladder these days, you either have to go it alone, or conform to the very narrow and xenophobic speed meta, and it just instantly trashes so much of the richness and depth of an awesome game and encourages elitism as a zeitgeist. I don't think it is healthy or sustainable for the long term of the community. VOC IGN @VOC
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Ice Spear, Freezing Pulse, Fireball, Flame Surge, Lightning Tendrils, Magma Orb
Claws Equalize Buff all of that please. Also, can we please get harder content... Please for the love of god... This game is so fucking easy... 3 Years ago Death and Taxes was 'exp suicide' now it's just farmville like uber lab... Please make Atziri/Uber Atziri 5 levels higher Please make Atziri/Uber Atziri items less shit Please make Mortal Hope less rare... The only difficulty to Uber Atziri currently is getting the pieces... The run itself is a joke. Make hard and rewarding content. Just like the council- 3/4 of the items are 1c garbage trash and then you have this 1 really amazing item(the bow). But, like I took my level 70 duelist in there and just facerolled it... Last edited by VKB#6195 on Jun 28, 2016, 1:23:40 AM
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The problem all stems from ridiculous AOE ranged skills being top damage dealer in this game.
Want to slow them down? Reign all of this out of control power creep. Or... do whatever. You're making the game YOU'D want to play, after all. |
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