GhazzyTV - Essence Drain & Contagion (or Bane/Soulrend) Trickster [SC/HC/Uber Elder/Shaper]

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Nakamikado wrote:

Hi. I copied the char almost 1:1, gems are lvl 18-19, 6l, BoTC, but dps is too low - 7-13k with boosts. See my char https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nakamikado/characters. I read here , that some guys have 40-90k dps with the same build. How this is possible? Take me too long time to kill bosses even on low tier maps. Life 5.5k, mana 3.3k.

As you sumarize
1. bad waepon roll
2. gloves give no dmg (Allepathy in my case)
3. Chest give no dmg (Cherrub in my case)
4. gem level
5. quality on gems (huuge - like 20% total dmg usually)

So you are on the right track.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Windfuriouss/characters

I am having the same issue as the poster above me. My single target seems to really be lacking. I seem to clear AOE just fine in t9 maps but the bosses take forever.

Also, are you supposed to use the Blight that the Allelopathy gloves give or no? I've seen different things about it and when I have tried Blight it just doesn't seem to do the same dps as Essence Drain, even on bosses.

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EinzigerAI wrote:

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Ghazzy wrote:

The Delirium is not better than BoTC imo.

Care to elaborate on why you feel this way?

Numbers wise delirium beats out BoTC in dps every time.

Delirium only provides single target damage increase, this is only a small part of the mapping and time spent grinding. BoTC increases all of your damage output. However, if you manage to get a high spell dmg delirium craft that will obviously be better as the differences might be rotated or at least extremely minimal.

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Mortichar wrote:

How are other people feeling about stun currently? I feel that when playing this character I either need to use the brine king pantheon or kaom's roots. Don't know how to get around it, I had two deaths pre-maps (and 0 since) from getting stunlocked. SSF so I found the easiest fix for me was to use brine king soul and later wear kaom's but that's not what the guide recommends, so how do you circumvent stuns? Purely relying on CWDT IC?

And before anyone says anything, I'm not standing in the middle of packs. I'm getting stunned by extra damage blues with ranged attacks (mostly skeleton archers).

The Brine King pantheon is a great solution, Kaom's roots as well. It all comes down to a matter of playstyle, the way I've played this build I never felt the need for stun immunity. Generally it will all depend on how people play the build & their personal preference.

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Nakamikado wrote:

Hi. I copied the char almost 1:1, gems are lvl 18-19, 6l, BoTC, but dps is too low - 7-13k with boosts. See my char https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nakamikado/characters. I read here , that some guys have 40-90k dps with the same build. How this is possible? Take me too long time to kill bosses even on low tier maps. Life 5.5k, mana 3.3k.

That image displays that you have 25k DPS (not the DPS of the tooltip, you want to look at the DoT DPS in the mod list).

As @Marxone is stating:
Weapon roll is mjeh, allelopathy will help you tons with damage output.
Gem lvls are huge for the build so that matters a lot.

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Windfuriouss wrote:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Windfuriouss/characters

I am having the same issue as the poster above me. My single target seems to really be lacking. I seem to clear AOE just fine in t9 maps but the bosses take forever.

Also, are you supposed to use the Blight that the Allelopathy gloves give or no? I've seen different things about it and when I have tried Blight it just doesn't seem to do the same dps as Essence Drain, even on bosses.

Hey,

Well with the use of Blight you simply use Contagion (for Arcane Surge) then ED and then Blight, whenever ED drops you reapply that (or before) and keep using Blight.

Bosses are a general pain in the ass since 3.0 but shouldn't be any problems.

Quick note for everyone:

Tonight I will create the DP Build Guide and right after, I'll have a strawpoll running where you guys get to decide which build I will do next, all non-gameplay-footage-updated builds will be included in that strawpoll.

Started a Shadow to do a MoM ED/Cont char and decided I'm going to try this build.

Wondered if anyone have come up with a way to fit in 2 of the Blight jewels for the 50% more chaos damage taken debuff? Seems like there aren't enough slots for 3 Grand Spectrums and 2 Spreading Rot. Figured it'd be a nice addition when using the Blight gloves as a totem.

edit: removed misquote.

Hi everyboy !

I have questions, i dont understand why u take the Vaal Lightning Trap on Cast When Damage Taken, can u explain me ?

Second question : I bought allelopathy recently, if u use it, u need to put necessarily contagion gems or the %increase over time dammage works even if contagion is on an other amour ?

Thx for help :D

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hacktiv wrote:

Hi everyboy !

I have questions, i dont understand why u take the Vaal Lightning Trap on Cast When Damage Taken, can u explain me ?

Second question : I bought allelopathy recently, if u use it, u need to put necessarily contagion gems or the %increase over time dammage works even if contagion is on an other amour ?

Thx for help :D

While it is technically linked to Cast When Damage Taken, it's just in the same item that happens to be linked.

Sometimes because of lack of sockets things that aren't really synergising are just in the same link chain. Nothing to over-analyze. Happens in every build on almost every character. Unless you remove a 4 link and make it a 3 link just for the aesthetics/OCD.

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hacktiv wrote:

Hi everyboy !

I have questions, i dont understand why u take the Vaal Lightning Trap on Cast When Damage Taken, can u explain me ?

Second question : I bought allelopathy recently, if u use it, u need to put necessarily contagion gems or the %increase over time dammage works even if contagion is on an other amour ?

Thx for help :D

While it is technically linked to Cast When Damage Taken, it's just in the same item that happens to be linked.

Sometimes because of lack of sockets things that aren't really synergising are just in the same link chain. Nothing to over-analyze. Happens in every build on almost every character. Unless you remove a 4 link and make it a 3 link just for the aesthetics/OCD.

Ok thx for this answer ! And do u know for glove ?

Hi Guys,
as you can see in my Profile i chose this build for the new leauge.

But im a hughe n00b at PoE :(

i currently safe my chaos for the Breath of the Council.

My question is is it possible to switch to a LL build just with jewelry and a head piece?
Since for the other slots i found uniques which i like ^^

and the second question:

Can i go for Shade Form instead of Walk the Archer and Swift Killer?

i would opt out of the frenzy stuff completle and instead use the points for CI or stuf like a 2nd curse.

with best +DS_DV+


PS: Sorry for my bad english
PPS: my Char is CptDylanHunt


EDIT: and a n00by n00b question: Does it matter in qhich order i cast contagion ed wither etc ?

HI Marxone!

I followed you tree etc. So what a problem? dps low,mapping ok t14+ boss long time a fight and guardian 1 hit me and died,but me not best player 4 portal fail,next killed guardian my another character. So pls help dps boost or any plan?