GhazzyTV - Essence Drain & Contagion (or Bane/Soulrend) Trickster [SC/HC/Uber Elder/Shaper]

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WingsOfDomain wrote:
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brzoskwinia wrote:

You can always run Perfect Form - free AA + free Phase Acro.


Also the defenses on the Perfect Form don't look that good. How much does that "uncapped resistance" thing add?


Whatever your uncapped cold resistance is. For instance, I'm currently at 105% cold res (after -30% the reduction from the chest). That means my evasion rating is increased by 105%. I don't have the best stats at the moment, but while wearing the chest I have 2700ish ES and over 11K evasion. If I remove the chest, I drop to 2K ES and 4K evasion. If I put on Hyrri's Ire (with the max evaszion roll) I'm at almost 12K evasion (300 away), and over 3K ES. Respectable? Sure. But I lose free Phase Acrobatics and I actually do have room in my build for arctic armor + 3 other auras - so for me, it works. It's also worth mentioning going with Hyrri's Ire drops my life from 5K to 4600, which is basically the difference in ES. Also, I have no use for the cold damage/chill stats, so it's not that impressive to me. Now, if I put on Atziri's Splendor (pure evasion) my evasion drops to 9K, but my ES stays at over 3K. The evasion + ES version boosts my ES to 3800, but my evasion drops to 7100. All-in-all, I personally feel that The Perfect Form is BiS, when you consider not only the defenses, but its value. A "free" aura (at the cost of a socket) and a free Keystone passive are kinda tough to beat IMO, especially when the difference in global defense is marginal.

EDIT: My total uncapped cold res is 119%. My bad.
Last edited by wrathchild619#2119 on Jun 18, 2019, 6:06:43 PM
Hey guys, first post in this thread or about ED/Contagion in general this league.

I started this league following Ziz's ED build, and just cleared up to guardians with minimal investment in my gear so far.

I'm trying to decide on what to upgrade/respec next, since I've had some difficulties surviving against some legion rares and endgame bosses. I noticed Ziz updated his build guide with grabbing acrobatics and using restless ward instead of perfect form now.

What are your thoughts on that for anyone who's seen/tried that type of setup?

I play Softcore, so more damage is always welcomed as long as I still have solid defensives.


I plan to make a ED bow, I just bought a 6l no-implicit bow for 18c, so I just alt till I get the gem mod and annul after and eventually multi mod and such?


Also I plan to grab atziri boots and set them up when I respec to Ziz's new tree.


Just wanted to see how everyone else is running their ED builds for endgame and such.
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kevinbrightblade wrote:
Help! An abundance of riches. So I've just multi-crafted my bow:

And here's the rest of my gear:


So the plan was to buy a quiver, switch to the bow and have 750k shaper dps. But the thought of doing two three-gem setups in my armor makes me die inside. What would be a six link that's worth it? Going from a 5link to 6link on blight hardly seems worth the effort (20k to 50k dps according to PoB). A 6link contagion is a waste according to PoB since it doesn't do enough dps to matter.

Also, in general, the plan was to:
1. run two curses (enfeeble and despair) with devouring diadem instead of Flesh and Stone (since I can switch the passives from Arcane Swiftness to Whispers of Doom).
2. add aspect of the spider to the quiver or amulet
3. swap boots for atziri's step once I have the resists covered
4. buy a WE with the malevolence NACDOT multiplier

The only thing I can come up with at the moment is to do the 6link blight in the chest, drop CWDT + Steelskin along with Allelopathy and run rare gloves with Contagion + Increased AoE + Intensify + Arctic Armour. There has to be a better way though. The dps gain from a 6l blight isn't awesome, and losing CWDT + Steelskin hurts.


with that build what does your skill tree look like

i just downed uber elder but i dont have perfect form and i have both acro and phase acro. was thinking of switching but i dno what id spend my points on.
What are good jewels to use with this build? what should I be looking for?
Last edited by Rainge40#1845 on Jun 18, 2019, 7:57:51 PM
Went shopping, gave up some defense for DPS. I was more focused on capping resistances on the rares since I decided to use a couple more uniques. I lost about 300 HP, but I gained a little ES and a lot more evasion. Upgrading the jewelry/belt is going to be expensive, and if I decide to get a chaos Impresence the rings and belt will need to be damn-near perfect, but I'm happy with my kit in the meantime

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hipposaver wrote:
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kevinbrightblade wrote:
Help! An abundance of riches. So I've just multi-crafted my bow:

And here's the rest of my gear:


So the plan was to buy a quiver, switch to the bow and have 750k shaper dps. But the thought of doing two three-gem setups in my armor makes me die inside. What would be a six link that's worth it? Going from a 5link to 6link on blight hardly seems worth the effort (20k to 50k dps according to PoB). A 6link contagion is a waste according to PoB since it doesn't do enough dps to matter.

Also, in general, the plan was to:
1. run two curses (enfeeble and despair) with devouring diadem instead of Flesh and Stone (since I can switch the passives from Arcane Swiftness to Whispers of Doom).
2. add aspect of the spider to the quiver or amulet
3. swap boots for atziri's step once I have the resists covered
4. buy a WE with the malevolence NACDOT multiplier

The only thing I can come up with at the moment is to do the 6link blight in the chest, drop CWDT + Steelskin along with Allelopathy and run rare gloves with Contagion + Increased AoE + Intensify + Arctic Armour. There has to be a better way though. The dps gain from a 6l blight isn't awesome, and losing CWDT + Steelskin hurts.


with that build what does your skill tree look like

i just downed uber elder but i dont have perfect form and i have both acro and phase acro. was thinking of switching but i dno what id spend my points on.


Here's the PoB of what my lvl 94 tree looks like:
https://pastebin.com/fPindRuf

I think I'm set as far as the skill gem setup, though I don't actually have all the levels in the PoB yet (Empower 4, ED 21/20, etc.). One note, I randomly got a decent Despair enchant on my helm, so I'm running Despair off Blasphemy. You could argue instead to run a different aura (Discipline, Flesh and Stone, Zealotry or whatever works with your WE) and use the Witchfire flask for your Despair curse.

For gear I'm currently using Allelopathy gloves and rare boots but plan to switch to Atziri's step and rare gloves; just need to sort my amulet resists. I've got placeholders in the PoB for gloves and amulet. And last but not least I'm saving up for a WE with Malevolence NACDOT.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Last edited by kevinbrightblade#5644 on Jun 19, 2019, 12:46:42 AM
I bet that this question was answered multiple times, but still - why people choose to use bows with this build? I'm looking for a budget weapon for a character lvl70 and was thinking about 6L cheap staff.
It seems counter intuitive to use bow with caster, instead of staff.
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pampersas wrote:
I bet that this question was answered multiple times, but still - why people choose to use bows with this build? I'm looking for a budget weapon for a character lvl70 and was thinking about 6L cheap staff.
It seems counter intuitive to use bow with caster, instead of staff.


It's because bow can get +1 Level Socketed Gems and +2 Level Socketed Support Gems. This boosts Empower's Level which then boosts Essence Drain's Level. A high level Essence Drain makes our single target better.
Messed around with skill tree tonight, unallocated all phase acrobatics/acrobatics nodes and went with survivalist and blast radius..I dig it so far. I am using a QotF though so the evasion gives me an extra bonus. Also anyone looking to boost dps I would highly recommend making sure you have a level 21 ED and level 3 empower, made a huge difference for me coming from level 20 ED and level 2 empower.
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psyonix wrote:
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WingsOfDomain wrote:
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brzoskwinia wrote:

You can always run Perfect Form - free AA + free Phase Acro.


Also the defenses on the Perfect Form don't look that good. How much does that "uncapped resistance" thing add?


Whatever your uncapped cold resistance is. For instance, I'm currently at 105% cold res (after -30% the reduction from the chest). That means my evasion rating is increased by 105%. I don't have the best stats at the moment, but while wearing the chest I have 2700ish ES and over 11K evasion. If I remove the chest, I drop to 2K ES and 4K evasion. If I put on Hyrri's Ire (with the max evaszion roll) I'm at almost 12K evasion (300 away), and over 3K ES. Respectable? Sure. But I lose free Phase Acrobatics and I actually do have room in my build for arctic armor + 3 other auras - so for me, it works. It's also worth mentioning going with Hyrri's Ire drops my life from 5K to 4600, which is basically the difference in ES. Also, I have no use for the cold damage/chill stats, so it's not that impressive to me. Now, if I put on Atziri's Splendor (pure evasion) my evasion drops to 9K, but my ES stays at over 3K. The evasion + ES version boosts my ES to 3800, but my evasion drops to 7100. All-in-all, I personally feel that The Perfect Form is BiS, when you consider not only the defenses, but its value. A "free" aura (at the cost of a socket) and a free Keystone passive are kinda tough to beat IMO, especially when the difference in global defense is marginal.

EDIT: My total uncapped cold res is 119%. My bad.


Sounds interesting, but the cheapest 6L is like 7ex.

I actually tested something, I can run Flesh and Stone, Dread Banner, Arctic Armour, Malevolence in the Devouring Diadem without the Empower support and still have enough unreserved Mana for Mom + Eldritch Battery, so a free Artic Armour wouldn't do that much.

While Hyrri's Ire gives me some useless cold stats, the flat attack/spell dodge should stack nicely with Acrobatics and Phase Acrobatics, right?
Last edited by WingsOfDomain#1036 on Jun 19, 2019, 4:58:12 AM

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