Raise Spectre

Harbinger is the first league i went summoner. Specters are great, but become really painful
later when u start farming high tier maps. Getting the right ones is really annoying.
I feel for all summoners now. Didn`t know things are this bad.
Can someone explain to me the actual downside of letting spectres scale up with zones?
I mean, would it break the game? I can`t see it.. It would be a big QoL improvement!
Seriously, what`s up with that!?
IGN: VodeniZec
Why do spectres not level up equal to the level of the zone you are in? why only down? is there some reason to have them be found outside maps then desecrated in maps... but only certain maps? Seems like a ton of work for no real reason. Is there any logic behind this? why not make boring/frustrating aspects of the game more user friendly.
ign: DaEDaenarys
Last edited by BldSwtTrs on Oct 1, 2017, 3:59:46 AM
Would also be nice if the raise specter gem remembers the last monster type, level and stats of it you summoned, and that information is saved on the gem even after log out, so when you get back online you can just raise it again. Getting disconnected, or having to re find your favorite monsters, makes summoners extremely frustrated when they build specter based DPS. Wouldnt be hard to do either, animate guardian is a gem that saves information already.
Last edited by Sixpackand2guns on Oct 3, 2017, 7:21:27 PM
Now that POE persists Raised Spectres through logout and/or disconnects, and adds currently Raised Spectres to an area’s “monster table” to allow the Spectres to be re-raised via Desecrate, I decided to try Raise Spectre in Mayhem.

While the above is nice, if not required to make the skill playable, I still have to ask why Spectres do not automatically level up to a new zone’s higher area level upon entry to the zone. Why should I have to stop playing and repeatedly SPAM Desecrate, inspecting each corpse in turn, until I can re-raise all my current Spectres at the current area level?

Do you know how annoying and time consuming this can be, especially when you get into maps?

While playing through the 10 acts, it was annoying enough that I only re-raised my Spectres when the area level went +2 higher than my current Spectre’s level, which in Part 2 basically allowed me get through an entire Act with only 1 or 2 re-raises.

For mapping, you really cannot get away with this. The Spectres need to be, at the very least, the same level as the area level. Thus, re-raises need to be done every map tier. This increased re-raise frequency, coupled with the fact that map “monster tables” have way more monster variety, brings about a whole new level of annoyance.

Desecrate corpses are RNG. RNG with increased monster variety is the bane of getting what you need. Having to stop, SPAM Descerate, and inspect corpses until you get what you need is in itself annoying, and not fun. This being the case, what do you think this scenario becomes when one enters and new map and gets stuck doing nothing but SPAMMING Desecrate and inspecting corpses at the map entrance for 8 minutes straight (literally… this happened) before getting the 3rd same-corpse type required to re-raise the 3-same Spectre army at the current area level?

To me, with POE’s recent Raise Spectre QOL improvements (beginning of my post), as long as the Raise Spectre gem is sufficient level to allow it, at this point and time I see no reason why Raised Spectres shouldn’t automatically level up to a new zone’s higher area level. The ground work for being able to do this has already been laid as POE persists the Spectres.

To summarize, Spectres should never scale their level down to match a lower area level. Spectres should auto level up upon entering a higher area level (if the gem is leveled appropriately to allow it), and then remain the higher level until entering a new higher level or until they die. If they die, well, yes, one will have to go through the pain the rear to find an area that has the Spectre type. But if/once the auto-level-up is implemented, at least one won’t have to then go to a higher area level and repeat the SPAM Desecrate, inspect corpse non-sense just to re-raise the just retrieved Spectres at the higher level. This latter part is such an irritating was of time, especially when RNG forces you to spend 8 minutes doing it. (Do you know how long 8 minutes is? In 8 minutes, speed runners just ran and cleared at least 4 entire maps, well skipping the map boss, while I was stuck SPAMMING Desecrate and inspecting corpses trying to get my 3rd Spectre.)
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Galtrovan wrote:
For mapping, you really cannot get away with this. The Spectres need to be, at the very least, the same level as the area level.

Not.. really. You're vastly overestimating the difference between a level 74 and 75 monster. :/ It's not even notable, let alone noticable. During leveling, this is even more pronounced - I've used level 46 or 48 Spectres halfway through Merc, back when.

If you want to make this easier on yourself, buy one higher-tier Map and get your Spectres from that, then do whatever else you feel like.
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I need to fix my Necro build for next league, and have some questions.

- If I have 4 Vanquards, every 1 of them will cast 1 totem (Total of 4 Totens!) Or 4 Vanquards will have only 1 totem up? (Total of 1 Totem!).
- Time of Vanquards cast a new totem are the same?

- About Wickerman explaim plz how much is this fix for dps! Need numbers to analise if I need find another Spectres for map clean or end game boses.
expected nerf level: "to dust"
Problem: impostor syndrome
Solution: nerf everything
Result: depressing mess
Spell echo wont work with rais specters anymore! Pls fix it fast its a hughe problem.
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but, can you please let the mouse highlight corpses somehow? Using desecrate is cumbersome to target the spectre I want to raise, and I have to make sure I do it N times in a row if I want the right spectres.
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thejase wrote:
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but, can you please let the mouse highlight corpses somehow? Using desecrate is cumbersome to target the spectre I want to raise, and I have to make sure I do it N times in a row if I want the right spectres.


You can set up a button on your keyboard for that. Look at options "UI" "Corpse Targeting".

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