Ice Nova

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Lo4f wrote:

This spell is overshadowed by cold snap in every way. Not worth using as cold witch/summoner. If surrounded by mobs targeting cold snap on the hero and moving away or finishing them off with freezing pulse was better than anything frost nova had to offer.

The skill needs much love to even be considered for a hotkey. The damage is rediculously low and no benefit to outweigh the fact you are in melee range surrounded by mobs.

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Drb00 wrote:

Speaking of Ice to Fire, does improving fire damage also increase the damage of the fire damage?

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Example with numbers:
I have glacial hammer converting 50% of my physical damage to cold damage, and Cold to Fire converting 50% of my cold damage to fire damage.
Lets say my weapon deals 100 physical damage (in actuality there'll be two numbers, an minimum and a maximum, but we only need to do the maths once for the example, it's applied exactly the same to both).

I have:
10% Increased Physical Damage
20% Increased Elemental Damage
5% Increased Cold Damage
15% Increased Fire Damage

My weapon's base damage is 100 physical.
50% of this will be converted to cold
50% of that (25% of the total) will be converted again to fire.

The physical damage will be affected only by the physical damage increase, for a 20% increase.

The cold damage will be affected by physical, elemental and cold increases, for a total 35% increase (10 + 20 + 5).

The fire damage is affected by physical, elemental, cold and fire increases, for a total 50% increase (10 + 20 + 5 + 15).


Physical:
50 of the base damage ends up being physical, with a 20% increase applied = 60 Physical Damage

Cold:
25 of the base damage ends up being cold, with a 35% increase applied = 34 Cold Damage (33.75 rounds up)

Fire:
25 of the base damage ends up being fire, with a 50% increase applied = 38 Fire Damage (37.5 rounds up)

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UristMcDwarfy wrote:

Mark had a good example in an earlier version of the Cold to Fire feedback thread. As far as I know, how this damage is calculated hasn't changed.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Example with numbers:
I have glacial hammer converting 50% of my physical damage to cold damage, and Cold to Fire converting 50% of my cold damage to fire damage.
Lets say my weapon deals 100 physical damage (in actuality there'll be two numbers, an minimum and a maximum, but we only need to do the maths once for the example, it's applied exactly the same to both).

I have:
10% Increased Physical Damage
20% Increased Elemental Damage
5% Increased Cold Damage
15% Increased Fire Damage

My weapon's base damage is 100 physical.
50% of this will be converted to cold
50% of that (25% of the total) will be converted again to fire.

The physical damage will be affected only by the physical damage increase, for a 20% increase.

The cold damage will be affected by physical, elemental and cold increases, for a total 35% increase (10 + 20 + 5).

The fire damage is affected by physical, elemental, cold and fire increases, for a total 50% increase (10 + 20 + 5 + 15).


Physical:
50 of the base damage ends up being physical, with a 20% increase applied = 60 Physical Damage

Cold:
25 of the base damage ends up being cold, with a 35% increase applied = 34 Cold Damage (33.75 rounds up)

Fire:
25 of the base damage ends up being fire, with a 50% increase applied = 38 Fire Damage (37.5 rounds up)

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unsane wrote:

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UristMcDwarfy wrote:

Mark had a good example in an earlier version of the Cold to Fire feedback thread. As far as I know, how this damage is calculated hasn't changed.

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Mark_GGG wrote:

Example with numbers:
I have glacial hammer converting 50% of my physical damage to cold damage, and Cold to Fire converting 50% of my cold damage to fire damage.
Lets say my weapon deals 100 physical damage (in actuality there'll be two numbers, an minimum and a maximum, but we only need to do the maths once for the example, it's applied exactly the same to both).

I have:
10% Increased Physical Damage
20% Increased Elemental Damage
5% Increased Cold Damage
15% Increased Fire Damage

My weapon's base damage is 100 physical.
50% of this will be converted to cold
50% of that (25% of the total) will be converted again to fire.

The physical damage will be affected only by the physical damage increase, for a 20% increase.

The cold damage will be affected by physical, elemental and cold increases, for a total 35% increase (10 + 20 + 5).

The fire damage is affected by physical, elemental, cold and fire increases, for a total 50% increase (10 + 20 + 5 + 15).


Physical:
50 of the base damage ends up being physical, with a 20% increase applied = 60 Physical Damage

Cold:
25 of the base damage ends up being cold, with a 35% increase applied = 34 Cold Damage (33.75 rounds up)

Fire:
25 of the base damage ends up being fire, with a 50% increase applied = 38 Fire Damage (37.5 rounds up)

Can anyone cliff's notes that to a "yes" or "no"? My eyes glazed over.