Cleave
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Sucks, too low dmg, too high mana cost, too slow.
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" Would not agree with high mana/speed. Damage is definitely too low though, compared to other melee options. |
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Considering how the results of pretty much every solo race ever prove that Cleave is quite likely the most OP skill in the (early) game, I'm a little surprised to see so many comments about how underpowered it is.
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Cleave for pure physical is a bit underpowerd.. I'm running 15500 dps using a 6link in Anarchy now and i do alot less dps then others using some elemental based melee skill.
Let's hope the calculation physical > armor is changed It should atleast have + area on the quality instead of that boring 10% atk speed. Ign Nicolai
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" if you're doing more than 1k physical damage you're already igoring any armor a mob can have in the game.. thats why when you get to highe dps physical>elemental. I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/ https://www.facebook.com/victorseicheart/ World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950 Highest level char in Closed Beta, Wytchfindergeneral Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Jun 18, 2013, 8:42:59 PM
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Too small aoe compare to Rain of Arrows etc..
Low dps, can't even dual wield cuz of -40% less dmg, tooltip lies. This skill is a joke Last edited by kate778#2528 on Jun 19, 2013, 8:01:16 AM
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" 1.Too small Aoe compared to Rain of Arrows ? Cleave is a melee skill. Who cares about RoA ? 2.Low dps ? Ele Cleave can reach 10-15k with two mediocre weapons. Physical cleave can also but with better weapons due to -40 less damage. To crit or not to crit ?
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" Yes but u still do less dmg, u do really small hits per second, ele is better i aggre, but with physical u cant penetrete arm of monsters |
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The biggest armor value in a monster is about 900.
A dev told someone.I think it was Victordoom that posted it. If you do 2-3k physical damage I don't think monsters reduce any of it. To crit or not to crit ?
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if someone dealt damage equal to the foe's armor, then the reduction is only ~7.69% (rounded down slightly). if damage is double the target's armor, then the reduction is exactly 4%. if damage is half the target's armor, then damage reduction is ~14.29% (rounded up).
so, even having about 500 damage per hit, foes are reducing the hit by a noticeable but small amount (13.04% roughly based on provided). lv 11 gems of cleave, more melee, multistrike and generalized weapon heavy spec'ed dualist trees (that still has defence mind you). double foil average damage =~ 874 (plus crit boost, more than other sword) double sword average damage =~ 868.5 double axe average damage =~ 1035 |
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