(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™

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oobs56 wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what actually generates endurance charges with this build?

You generate endurance charges by enduring cry

was wondering if there is anything i can tweak on my passive tree



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Hatred + Herald of Ash + Arctic Armour

Hatred + Haste/Determination/Grace

Hatred + Blasphemy (curse)

Can someone tell me how Hatred, herald of ash and arctic armour work together?
And what to choose if i want to go 100% mana reserved?

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billnyethescienceguy1227 wrote:

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oobs56 wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what actually generates endurance charges with this build?

You generate endurance charges by enduring cry

I don't see Enduring Cry mentioned in the OP.

Edit: Going back in the thread I can see there's some discussion surrounding this - whether to use Enduring Cry or some other mechanic (CWDT - Warlord's or using Red Dream/Nightmare). Enduring Cry is massively clunky in this build, so I suppose I'll play around with these other options as well.

one more question i have to ask... if all the skills have to link with blood magic support because of 100% mana reservation.. why dont pick blood magic passive (only 1 point spent if you are duelist for example) and free those links in cyclone, totem, leap... ?

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oobs56 wrote:

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billnyethescienceguy1227 wrote:

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oobs56 wrote:

Pardon my ignorance, but what actually generates endurance charges with this build?

You generate endurance charges by enduring cry

I don't see Enduring Cry mentioned in the OP.

Edit: Going back in the thread I can see there's some discussion surrounding this - whether to use Enduring Cry or some other mechanic (CWDT - Warlord's or using Red Dream/Nightmare). Enduring Cry is massively clunky in this build, so I suppose I'll play around with these other options as well.

Enduring Cry is necessary for just about any build in the game against bosses.

For the elemental build, CWDT+WLM is the most common setup for mapping. For running any other curse, you need to get more creative with Juggernaut ascendancy, Red Dream, a gimmick like Daresso's, Enduring Cry, or simply do without.

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xonsuns wrote:

one more question i have to ask... if all the skills have to link with blood magic support because of 100% mana reservation.. why dont pick blood magic passive (only 1 point spent if you are duelist for example) and free those links in cyclone, totem, leap... ?

Because then you can't run auras. It's decent enough with a brutality build which isn't dependent on them, but not very optimal for an elemental build.

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Chicout wrote:

@Samir316: So how you manage your mana or cyclone "cost" right now?
That's my only concern right now as leveling, it's not so bad but since it's the first time i play cyclone, it's my only concern atm.
DPS is ok, i dont really die but i drink a lot :-)
Thanks.

For non-crit:

Mana Flows and Spirit Void. Two of the best mana nodes on the tree!!! I tend to drop Mana Flows though if I pick up a ring with T1 mana regen.

Alternatively, you can use Rallying Cry, but you're getting pretty hipster. Cyclone is a mana fiend, especially if you scale up the attack speed. If you want to run it off mana, you need to invest in it. You can also get +3 mana on hit on 2-3 jewels, it helps.

Back in 1.X etc., when cost scaled with gem level, Lighty even mentioned that you can use Elreon jewellry to make it bearable. Hard to get good life-elreon rings now though, people have been using them for ES for the last 2 years (this guide is pretty old!).

For Crit:

Acuities are best in slot, the instant mana leech is a massive quality of life upgrade.

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Samir316 wrote:

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Chicout wrote:

@Samir316: So how you manage your mana or cyclone "cost" right now?
That's my only concern right now as leveling, it's not so bad but since it's the first time i play cyclone, it's my only concern atm.
DPS is ok, i dont really die but i drink a lot :-)
Thanks.

For non-crit:

Mana Flows and Spirit Void. Two of the best mana nodes on the tree!!! I tend to drop Mana Flows though if I pick up a ring with T1 mana regen.

Alternatively, you can use Rallying Cry, but you're getting pretty hipster. Cyclone is a mana fiend, especially if you scale up the attack speed. If you want to run it off mana, you need to invest in it. You can also get +3 mana on hit on 2-3 jewels, it helps.

Then i guess the other way around is to be a real big life sucker and bloodmagic support but i wasnt liking this idea at the first place. wanted to play differently. But then it permit to have mana to be aura reserved only... get the pictures... is a question of choice and game play i guess

Thanks.

Does it matter if my weapon has crit multiplier and no ele dmg? I guess that crit multis arent useful at all with RT, but what if i go full phys dmg, do I still take RT??