[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

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ichbinwerichbi wrote:
thanks a lot
and next leage i try your build hank :-)
but i couldent make it myself. I bought the shaper kill :-(

Comments about my Ancestral Warchief Totem Build...

Along with some comments about Detonate Dead and Blight
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Assuming that they don't nerf the AW build, it's very nice.

Start off though by getting a Bringer of Rain Helm - with that helm (4 sockets) you can do all content up until Shaper with no problems. From there, get the Divination Cards for a 6-link chest and buy an Abyssus - with that gear, go for Shaper/Uber Atziri.

I'm horrible at dodging - I wasn't able to kill Shaper (but only tried twice).

The problem I ran into is that my totems were destroyed early on - so I was doing very little damage.

I think though, that with more Shaper attempts, I could eventually kill Shaper on a consistent basis - drop totems behind Shaper, and try to stay fairly close to Shaper to see what's going on - dropping totems once more as necessary.

Sometimes those void orbs that follow you seem to spawn where the Shaper is - sometimes I'd be hit by those and need to move away - the void circles they left behind on those occasions really screwed up my movement and totem placement. I'd need more practice to work out how to deal with that issue.
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Detonate Dead...

DD is OK. But it needs corpses to work. So it's a bit clunky - cast a skill to generate corpses and then cast DD. Also, its crit chance is only 5% - meaning that it's going to be impossible to get guaranteed crits for the skill.

Probably you'd be best off going some sort of trapper for DD - trap-cluster traps-multiple traps-?? for corpse generation.

And maybe Elementalist to get the ignite DOT going.

Maybe you could kill Shaper with this skill - but it's really clunky and doesn't seem to offer the damage potential of other skills.
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Blight

Blight seems to be great for leveling until you can equip Essence Drain. Once ED is available, I see no reason whatsoever to use Blight.

Blight's range is extremely small - you'll need to be within melee range (or nearly so) to hit your targets.

Blight does have a fairly large width - not particularly useful - but at least you can damage a large number of targets to your right and left.

Blight is a channeled skill - you need to stack cast speed to get the most benefit out of the skill and you'll need to stay in place.

Blight cannot leech though - which means that staying in place is not a viable option.

Bottom line - Blight is great for leveling until such time as you can equip Essence Drain (level 18?) - at which point you can vendor the gem.

Maybe Blight is viable/good if cast by totems - two Blight totems to get stacks going and a third totem or maybe manual cast for Wither - but meanwhile AOE is lacking. Meaning that leveling will take forever.

I'm very skeptical that Blight, in it's current form, is at all a viable skill.
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Nov 18, 2016, 12:31:31 PM
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ichbinwerichbi wrote:
yesterday i managed to get the portal. I tried all things to make it myself. But one challenge i cant do to get the 36.
the grind i dont like. the cards is no chance other to buy some.
the guardians i tried but only minotaur i have perhaps an chance. hydra i got to 30 % i think but it needs 10 min to do so and then i died 3 times. phoenix i dont try.
warband leader was good but i need 6 and its totally luck.

so i was frustratet yesterday and i buyed the shaper kill. That was unbelievable. this guy makes it for nothing and let me all loot. He dont want anything for it. and he need 3 or 4 min.

So i thought, i love this build verry much. And it gives me a big amount of currency. But since 3 leages i need things to buy to get the 36 challanges (what is my goal).

next leage i ask chrono what build can do all the things i need :-)) and try to go with that. As a am in holiday the first 8 days from the next leage, i hope he has one.

Yes i can make this build and then lvl another. but i HATE lvl sooooo much, that i cant do that!!!

And for serlet. Thanks a lot for a build i have so much fun with over the year. And for your great thread. So much nice and funny people who answer all questions.


Gratz on 36, buddy =)

I feel you on the leveling. I don't do more than two characters per league anymore. Hopefully when act five is released, it'll be less frustrating.

Glad you had a lot of fun with the build, and I'm glad I, and others, could help out on your journey =) <3
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
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FastTrek5 wrote:
Thank you for creating this build guide. It has definitely helped me in creating my own iteration of this build. I do have a question though. And I do apologize in advance if this question has been asked before and I missed it but, is it a good idea to use a Blood Dance just for the 5% Life Regen/sec? I am worried about survivability and as of late my character does seem quite 'squishy' to say the least. Or am I just better off with a pair of 'okay' IIR boots?


The regeneration off Blood Dance would be nice QoL for things like vuln, desecrated ground or reduced recovery maps but it's not necessary. Running a Stone Golem (either self-cast or on a CWDT setup) would serve the same purpose, allowing you to retain Goldwyrm.


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But i hate unfriendly lazy people who think all other people on the world should help them to live there lazyness and if not they are noobs or bad.


Yeah, people who think things should be handed to them on a silver platter and get upset when it's not frustrate me to no end.

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My early impressions on Blight match Chronos but, not a whole lot of people were using Blade Vortex for a while until the BV Pathfinder came out.

I'm willing to think that some skills just need to be built correctly but.... balance. Just, balance. X_X

Scorching Ray doesn't seem in its current form like it'll be useful for MFing, at least not self-cast. Seems like it's going to be a totem build. There's no leech and unlike Flameblast which can cover a pretty broad area quickly and kill things before they get close to you, you're TRULY stuck in the pocket with SR. Your only defensive mechanic is flasking.

The new Voll's helm and Tukuhama's Fortress would probably make SR fairly decent. But then you could just Flame Totem.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
Last edited by Serleth#4392 on Nov 18, 2016, 4:48:14 PM
Wow.

Just, wow.

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Once you click the portal, the breach opens as a widening circle of an alternate dimension filled with monsters. You’ll have to quickly dispatch all of these threats in order to keep the breach open and expanding! Basically, the more monsters you kill, the longer the breach will stay open and continue to expand. And the more it expands, the more monsters are revealed for you to kill to keep it open. And the more monsters you kill, the more rewards and exclusive items you can earn. Wilson noted that the breaches will typically stay open for around 30 seconds to a minute, depending on how well players deal with the mobs. “The thing we’re experimenting with here is the style of gameplay which is very action-packed but is quite short lived.” he explained.


So, you're now actually punished by not playing Warchief, BV, CoC Cospri's or TShot Poison or some other powerful build?
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
Last edited by Serleth#4392 on Nov 18, 2016, 4:41:37 PM
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Serleth wrote:
And the Breachlord portal effect looks... reused, somehow. Like I've seen it elsewhere before, or something similar, in a previous supporter pack maybe?


Could it be an over saturation of Purple? Cause that is what I thought when watching the trailer.
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Serleth wrote:

Wow.

Just, wow.
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So, you're now actually punished by not playing Warchief, BV, CoC Cospri's or TShot Poison or some other powerful build?


So rampage crossed with an Eleron Mission?
Now that I've seen the trailer, it's more like a previous portal effect mixed with the demon portal.

Uninspired.

Design wise, I see it as "So, players go Beyond, instead of Beyond going Wraeclast."

Uninspired.

Combine that with the mechanic itself, where damage = reward, if there isn't significant rework to balance in the patch notes in 1.5 weeks, where things get put on a more even playing field, I honestly can't say how involved I'll be in this game.

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Here, in its domain, is where players actually have the chance to kill the Breachlord for extra reward — if they find it in time! Of course, you have to kill mobs fast enough to keep the breach expanding until you find the portal to the Breachlord’s lair; if you don’t, the breach will collapse and you will fail. If, however, you do make it, be glad to know that the boss fight itself is not timed.


So, Oba's Trove, but "Breach."

Uninspired.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
Last edited by Serleth#4392 on Nov 18, 2016, 4:51:17 PM
One thing to keep in mind about the silver platter crew...
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Either ignore them, or help them regardless. Scolding them makes it worse.

How so, you might wonder?

Well, firstly, very few of them learn from being scolded, so that avenue is mostly pointless to start with.

However, that's not the real concern. The real problem is the state it leaves the internet in. Imagine, many people ask for help with a question that is regularly asked, easily searchable, and well documented, and the reaction from the current experts is:

"Search! It's easy to find, do some work!"

Each time this cycles, the actual answer becomes more difficult to find. Eventually, typing the question in Google gives you pages of results, all of which are the same - some noob asking the question and being scolded about it. Of course, the actual information is also indexed by Google, however, finding it among the dead end results full of scolding gets tougher until it is relegated to page 2 of the search results. At that point, it's effectively gone.
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
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The other way to see it though is:

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If nobody tells them that what they're doing is harmful to their own development, then they still never learn.

Double-edged sword, and it mostly comes down to HOW you "scold" them. Simply taking an internet-dump on them isn't going to serve any purpose, but something that gives them a carrot instead of a stick, tends to work.

To provide an example, let's say someone is trying to figure out how penetration works in the game.

A simple "path of exile penetration" google search immediate comes up with the resistance penetration mechanic page on the wiki.

So I typically phrase my replies as carrot-y as I can. Which, given that I'm a pretty blunt person, probably isn't the best way, but it still yields positive results.

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Hey, so a quick google search for "path of exile penetration" comes up with the comes up with the resistance penetration mechanic page on the wiki.

You'll find the wiki is a great resource that will typically answer most of your early questions, particularly if your google search includes "path of exile wiki" & "whatever you're looking for."

In the interests of keeping this subreddit clean from repetitive questions, try your hand at using the wiki or the reddit search function located on your right. You'll often find the answers faster than it'll take for you to post your question here and wait for a response.

Failing that, the sub front page has a weekly "Questions" thread pinned to the top, and there's also a PoE Discord server you can find where people will be helpful in answering any questions that you might have.




Lately I've been rather short-fused, so I've been ignoring most of the stupid / repetitive questions flat out, because being snappy (or scolding, as you put it) doesn't solve the problem.

But I've noticed when the same names keep cropping up with easy-to-find-answers-to questions, and I post something like the above, that person suddenly stops asking those types of questions.

Something to be said for the carrot.

In short, more often than not if you just encourage people to work for themselves, rather than berating them for not doing so, they often FEEL better about finding the answers themselves, so that's what they go and do.

Ofc you're always going to have lazy people who never bother.


One of my fave posts was from this guy. I have no problems (well, less problems) when someone flat out admits that they're lazy, like he did.

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Where's a good place to ask stupid questions when I don't feel like googling?


My response:

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Serleth wrote:
Chances are pretty good that if you could get an answer faster by googling than by asking it here, you'll get chewed apart. The wiki is pretty robust and will answer most of your early questions.

That said, if you can't find answers quickly, there's a weekly questions thread that pops up every Monday that's pinned which would be a good place to go. Those threads are a lot more forgiving and are sort of the unofficial location where stupid questions are encouraged, as well as the Discord server.


Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
That's the perfect way to answer.

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It links to the answer, which boosts the actual information for Google's SEO, (which solves the 'how do we leave the internet' challenge) it explains how to search, and it gives more than enough tips to proceed.

I'd call that helping them. If they are so thin skinned they can't take that kind of help, there's no hope for them anyway. :)
Current league IGN: Teldra_Anc_LAD
Feel free to message me in game if I'm on.
Well,

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You'd be surprised how many people get upset when you lead with the phrase "A quick google search."

They take it as a stab at their laziness.

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It kinda is. =D


But I haven't been able to come up with a way to phrase it to take the sting off. At some point I'd have to mention what search parameters came up with the given result in order to provide guidance in that regard.

But yeah, if they take offense at it, I just move on.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.

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