[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

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Irongunner wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply. I really like Blood Dance though, as it frees up 1 gem slot (dropped Blood Rage for Temp Chains on my CWDT), frees up 1 skill point (Master of the Arena not needed if not running Blood Rage) and greatly improves clear speed through the added movespeed and insane HP regen. Eventually I'd also get a +1 Frenzy one. So if I want to stick with that, shall I just keep Sadima's for the IIQ and simply try to get 2x Andvarius by upgrading to resist jewels / better amulet / maybe drop QotF (even though it greatly helps with evasion and gives 15% MS)? With the current setup my MF values are 16/243 once I get my 20/20 rarity gem.


Yeah that's definitely one way to handle it, although I personally don't like Sadima's because of the crap defense, if you're offsetting it with BD then it's a viable option. Just keep in mind you're losing out on up to 4% IIQ in making that decision. It's not critical, but just something to be aware of.

Only reason I suggest that you'll probably have to drop QoTF is that the resistances just aren't really easily manageable and by going with the extra unique (Sadima + BD + dual Andy) you're really limiting your res balance options. So it's probable that you'll need a chest with at least 42%+ dual res and an open suffix, at worst, in order to make it happen and keep res capped, if not tri res 40+.

Goldwyrm has the added benefit of offering a nice fire resistance value in addition to quantity, which is the central reason it's utilized in the build in conjunction with the mana regeneration as a QoL buff

It's your call, but just letting you know that you're in for a doozy getting your res balanced by opting for that setup.

Although with your bow, you have the nice option of going multimod on it to get a second resistance, so that's actually a huge deal that you picked up a bow with only three total affixes.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
I based on this guide my second char on POE, well third if we count a short playtime when it was just out of beta, anyway i'm a noob :).

My thanks for the build it really got me into the game as i started drop some decent stuff, sold it and bought ok PA gear, currently MFing in 75/78 maps with acceptable speed and not much troubles except 1 (which is the very reason of this post): i tend to die more or less once per map.

My evasion is 15kish and i also got phase acro, my hp are 3.5kish - res are capped -(that might be the reason), problem is that with some map mods when i can't kite efficiently they 1shot me.

I was thinkin to dump Acro for Iron Reflexes to survive that 1 big burst hit and blink arrow away, you think might be viable? I would like some suggestions from you and other expert PA players.

Cheers :)

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HorrorBmovieS wrote:
I based on this guide my second char on POE, well third if we count a short playtime when it was just out of beta, anyway i'm a noob :).

My thanks for the build it really got me into the game as i started drop some decent stuff, sold it and bought ok PA gear, currently MFing in 75/78 maps with acceptable speed and not much troubles except 1 (which is the very reason of this post): i tend to die more or less once per map.

My evasion is 15kish and i also got phase acro, my hp are 3.5kish - res are capped -(that might be the reason), problem is that with some map mods when i can't kite efficiently they 1shot me.

I was thinkin to dump Acro for Iron Reflexes to survive that 1 big burst hit and blink arrow away, you think might be viable? I would like some suggestions from you and other expert PA players.

Cheers :)



The big problem is your life. 3.5k is extremely low. You need to push 4.5k, minimum. I don't think your evasion or taking IR is the problem.

Frenzy charges are the last thing imho you should pick up so spec out of at least two of them to get back four points and invest them into the Scion life wheel. The life on your gloves is really low and you have no life on either of your rings or amulet.

Get a gold ring with life / res / IIR instead of the paua ring so that you retain some of your IIR there. Replace your other gold ring with something similar, but with life, sacrificing the extra IIR you have if necessary. Same deal for your amulet.

After that replace your gloves with a pair that has 60+ life, ideally 70+.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
I'm running a MF/dps hybrid variant of Poison Arrow now and recently upgraded to a 6L +3 and have the option of socketting either the IIR or IIQ gem. What would be your advice? I'm currently at 13% IIQ/109% IIR and mainly run 78+ maps with >100% map IIQ.

Thanks.
This is my current gear and tree. Would you have any suggestions to boost IIQ/IIR without sacrificing too much DPS and survivability? I would like to equip an Andvarius ring but I'm not sure how I'm going to plug the shortfall in resistance.

Thanks again!



*The missing gem in the 6L Bow is an Empower 4.

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eugenez wrote:
I'm running a MF/dps hybrid variant of Poison Arrow now and recently upgraded to a 6L +3 and have the option of socketting either the IIR or IIQ gem. What would be your advice? I'm currently at 13% IIQ/109% IIR and mainly run 78+ maps with >100% map IIQ.

Thanks.


Maximize C where:

C = (1 + IIQ/100) * (1 + IIR/100)

IIQ = increased item quantity on your gear/gems
IIR = increased item rarity on your gear/gems/jewels

Compute C for your gear with the IIR gem slotted. Next compute C for your gear with the IIQ slotted.

Go with whichever is higher.

Note: It turns out that map IIQ/IIR stacks multiplicatively with with your own IIQ/IIR. This means that you should ignore the map IIQ/IIR when computing C above. In a previous post I thought that it stacked additively and incorrectly stated that you should add map IIR and IIR to your own - which was wrong. I've since edited my earlier post make this correction.


Edit: Using your numbers, assuming +1 to socketed gems and 20% quality on gems I get:

Using IIR gem: C = (1 + 0.13) * (1 + 1.79) = 3.15
Using IIQ gem: C = (1 + 0.57) * (1 + 1.09) = 3.28

Since 3.28 > 3.15 you should go with the IIQ gem.

Note: if you want to maintain flexibility with your bow (e.g. switch in Increased Area of Effect) then a free blue gem is probably better. For pure MF a red slot for IIQ is best but for flexibility you might want a blue slot.

Yet another note :-)
I was assuming that you were considering how to color your bow and were trying to decide whether to make 1 additional red socket (2 in total) or leave it blue. Dropping Empower for IIQ would yield better MF but your DPS, and hence clear speed will go way down. If you're going to go with the bow as is, definately swap in IIR.
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Aug 23, 2015, 11:48:26 PM
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eugenez wrote:
I'm running a MF/dps hybrid variant of Poison Arrow now and recently upgraded to a 6L +3 and have the option of socketting either the IIR or IIQ gem. What would be your advice? I'm currently at 13% IIQ/109% IIR and mainly run 78+ maps with >100% map IIQ.

Thanks.


IIR.

And you plug the shortfall with jewels mostly looking at your gear. Or alternately switch to a rare chest and forgo the life benefit of Belly.

Without knowing what your current life sits at, hard for me to say but imho if you're above 5200 life with a rare chest with 80 flat, I say do that instead. That'll open up Andvarius for you in conjunction with better jewels. Most of what you have is either damage/damage or life/damage. Invest in a jewel or two that has three useful affixes and it'll be a lot easier.

You can also make up some of the life lost from dropping Belly that way if you need to. I count at least three jewels you could adjust for res on a quick scan.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
Serleth, our responses crossed! And congrats on the 8/8!!

Got it. Thanks both!
Last edited by eugenez#5846 on Aug 23, 2015, 11:34:05 PM
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eugenez wrote:
Serleth, our responses crossed! And congrats on the 8/8!!

Got it. Thanks both!


Thanks! =) Woke up and was fortunate enough to have a Phantoms tempest right off the start. =)


EDIT: Thanks to Hank for covering in the explanation of why I said IIR. The clear-speed isn't worth dropping Empower with the colours as is.

As a side-note I have put together a C-Value Calculator to make life easier.

Simply save it as whatever file type you need to your own drive and you can calculate on the fly.
Jul 27, 2011 - Sept 30, 2018.
Last edited by Serleth#4392 on Aug 24, 2015, 2:31:34 AM
Perfect. I had to go old school with a calculator. Will try to gear up on MF now.

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