PvP has been 'balanced'

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A222 wrote:

Funny, you don't LLD and yet you quote the one the one change that is arguably justifiable.

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For future reference, any post made by me regarding anything PvP-related shall only be related to LLD. I have zero HLD experience and I would appreciate it if you don't use what I say in reference to HLD.

Funny, you don't HLD, e.g: a majority of players who see little point in gearing a character useful exclusively for a certain subtype of PvP, instead preferring to use their existing effective characters.

Oh, and HLD/PvE effective characters also make for Grandmaster-solo viable characters. Not that Grandmasters map drops anything valuable, apparently. They should've spawned in five large chests at the end, considering the level of difficulty. Yet more overhyped features from GGG.

It's like they sometimes forget their game is about itemization. Seriously GGG, if itemization or the prospect of itemization (cosmetic or otherwise) isn't offered in one of your game features, then nobody bothers with it.

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Epee wrote:

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A222 wrote:

Funny, you don't LLD and yet you quote the one the one change that is arguably justifiable.

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For future reference, any post made by me regarding anything PvP-related shall only be related to LLD. I have zero HLD experience and I would appreciate it if you don't use what I say in reference to HLD.

Funny, you don't HLD, e.g: a majority of players who see little point in gearing a character useful exclusively for a certain subtype of PvP, instead preferring to use their existing effective characters.

Oh, and HLD/PvE effective characters also make for Grandmaster-solo viable characters. Not that Grandmasters map drops anything valuable, apparently. They should've spawned in five large chests at the end, considering the level of difficulty. Yet more overhyped features from GGG.

It's like they sometimes forget their game is about itemization. Seriously GGG, if itemization or the prospect of itemization (cosmetic or otherwise) isn't offered in one of your game features, then nobody bothers with it.

In case you didn't know, all of these balance changes are mostly LLD related. Stupid move from GGG to not consider HLD but what can you do?

It's not smart to use HLD as your basis to react negatively to this patch note. Especially when I think the nerf to clever construction is well received by both the LLD and HLD communities (Tommie please clarify me on this, does the HLD community like the CC nerf?)

Also another thing, you think top HLD characters are just well-geared PvE characters?

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MullaXul wrote:

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tempallo wrote:

another patch that let me understand even more that ggg has no clue on what they are doing.
nerfing spells by 25-30 %, cwdt, traps etc and melee skill by 5-10 %. a spell need a crit to do about 3/4 of a melee life, a melee need 1 cyclone to kill another char with this low amount of block on the passive tree, and has RT so always hits. nice joke ggg, keep listening to the rants of ppl in the forum instead of ppl who actually DO pvp.

Ppl that pvp? You? Ha, you practicing your stand up here kiddo?

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try to improve ur throwing excuses skills pls. first time you blamed it on ping, second time you just leaped in circle of arena trying to draw but you cant even do that so you blamed on desync and ragequitted. you are stronger on forums than in game. bye clown.

to remain IT:
@a222 i playied a pure trapper until 1.3 and i can tell you that a pure trapper isnt viable anymore with 2.5 sec of immunity, because you will have 2 trap skill in ur setup, and by the time you cycle between those the enemy can just destroy and you will have no more traps to throw. another thing is that you need lot of traps to make enemy step into, and imho 2.5 is too low. on the other hand, if i look at lld i see that they use traps more as a support, in combination with a main non trap attack, and in this case i think 5 seconds of immunity is too much. so i dont know exaclty how ggg should have act, but now playing a pure trapper in hld is impossible, due to the low trap throwing speed that you have, even with all nodes on tree and all items that make you throw traps fast, traps are still dodgeable too easy, so the only thing you can do is camp and lure your opponent step on it.

If people felt they had a good argument as to why CC should remain at 5 seconds rather than be reduced to 2.5 then they should have posted in the thread I made a couple of weeks back. The fact of the matter is that no one was able to provide a reasonable answer as to why CC should stay at 5 seconds. (Im still waiting btw)

Dont blame GGG for the lack of participation with regards to balance discussion by the [HLD] PvP community . They post a nerf and people come out of the wood works to QQ about it but when someone brings up a legitimate concern and wants to start a discussion about it none of the QQers want to take part.

@mullatheclown

[Removed by Support] while you know for sure that we were both on US server, where i have 260 ping cause im from EU. So i was actually lagging, not you, but still. try to open your eyes.

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@deth i wrote an argument about the nerf 2 posts above yours. if i didnt in ur topic prolly i havent seen that, or at that time i just tought it was unnacessary cause no matter what we write, ggg always do crap things and im tired of this, so i will not waste more words trying to understand their logic.

Oh flavio, so full of shit and reeking of desperation.
Its ok lil guy you'll get to high level one day. Until then at least GGG has provided you ez mode build options to help you trudge along.

inb4 ggg suddenly reverts CC back to 5 seconds due to the ramblings of one person, whereas we constantly see threads from numerous LLD and HLD players about what is really op, ggg don't even bat an eye.

anyone remember flicker strike?

OMG, the worst pvp playstyle has been nerfed. QQ and Tears are needed indeed.

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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:

If people felt they had a good argument as to why CC should remain at 5 seconds rather than be reduced to 2.5 then they should have posted in the thread I made a couple of weeks back. The fact of the matter is that no one was able to provide a reasonable answer as to why CC should stay at 5 seconds. (Im still waiting btw)

Dont blame GGG for the lack of participation with regards to balance discussion by the [HLD] PvP community . They post a nerf and people come out of the wood works to QQ about it but when someone brings up a legitimate concern and wants to start a discussion about it none of the QQers want to take part.

i can tell you this.

before, if you were actively throwing down your traps on cooldown, you would have none to throw offensively, but you would be relatively safe against your own traps turning against you.

WHat am I talking about?
With the introduction of herald of ash, traps have always had to deal with the risk of this 1 shot feature. Its very easy to die to herald of ash. I find myself unable to keep up with the demand and meleers just 1 shot me in a leapslam because of CC cd reduction.

When you fight against good pvpers, they dont eat traps that you throw onto their bodies, they nearly always move out. On top of that, with immortal call, and dodge, the trapping is very weak now.

So once I was relatively safe with traps as long as I was making the decision to keep throwing out fresh ones to avoid herald of ash prolifs, now its just not possible. My traps become my worst enemy.

perhaps if they want to keep cc this way, they should make traps have 1hp but 75 all resist to minimize the amount of overkill damage

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MullaXul wrote:

Oh flavio, so full of shit and reeking of desperation.
Its ok lil guy you'll get to high level one day. Until then at least GGG has provided you ez mode build options to help you trudge along.

are we now witnessing the d2-esque pvp forum battles where people used to save screen shots of everyone they ever killed.

good times. good times.