[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses
" it was more a case of picking something for my first build. I was consistently advised to pick dead eye, I spent at least a week before acceding and could get little in the way of advice from anywhere outside of a few people who all said "deadeye TS" Plan was to go path finder, but they're meant to be expensive to gear.. also I was advised that raider is for mele builds, so didn't even consider it. I'm more concerned now with just finishing off this build and doing some farming with it before starting my proper breach build... I'd probably like to do lightning arrow path finder, not sure though, seriously don't know that much yet as I've only been playing this game month. PS: I only used this as a rough guide. when I looked at other builds they all more or less used the same tree. the idea was to just do the base tree then pick where I wanted to go, as more people were saying "TS deadeye" I decided to go with it. It was in no way my first choice though. I wanted to do split arrow originally or caustic. PPS: I really just want to know whether to start getting damage nodes again, get the health and evasion ones or get some more life leech. like you said the build is old so it;s not exactly easy getting any actual advise at this point.. I'm not just going to scrap the build when this is the furthest I have been though, I'd like to see it through and then start another one when this goes as far as it can. with this in mind.. if you can't offer any advice for this build, maybe you can offer a guide I can check out for my next build. catch is it;s gotta be a bow build and not astronomically expensive. I have about 1 ex 15 c saved so far! Tyrs Paladium - DoT Enthusiast. Last edited by Umbral_Spectre#0144 on Jan 1, 2017, 7:40:06 PM
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Deadeye's problem is a lack of utility and defence. Even woth CWDT,arctic atmor and other defensive mechanics it mostluy remains glass canon. Glass canon is good till you are sure nobody will ever touch you, but with desyncs, lag spikes and fps drops you die like a fly. With deadeye i stuck on lvl 91. Recently switched to raider and now i am making progress-slow and steady.Still dying but mostly due to my own stupidity.
" Not at all.It give a solid defensive potential along with nice damage boost from Onslaught and frenzy bonuses. |
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" Well imo the whole build complex isn't really designed to combat the lag. I didnt choose the tankiest path, but something like 5.1k hp, 40k evasion with flask, 20/20 temp chains, Basalt and Vaal Pact should be enough for general mapping (I'm playing some TS/Barrage fire conversion assassin). But if I hit a lagspike in a Breach and my char isnt attacking/moving, Alt-F4 is the only way to live ;). With an EQ Juggernaut or a totem character things might look differently. You can also die due to stupid play, (which i do quite a lot), just wanted to express my opinion that the TS bow chars are not designed for afking / bad lag spikes). Ascendacy-wise Marauder (Berserker), Assassin, Raider and Inquisitor (with Doomfletch Prism) should be better than Deadeye imo [for templeagues] and offer much more flexibility. Champion looks like another reasonable choice, don't have any experience with it though. Deadeye would be decent if the 1/2*dying sun ascendacy node was in front of the "30% more damage as the projectiles travel further" and not the other way around. With the damage potential of "Point Blank" keystone together with barrage for bosses, this node looks kind of mediocre. P.S. Idk about all the discussion about shaper/uber/guardian viable. Some people are able to do Atziri with 6k tooltip dps, other struggle with 30k, something similar is true for other fights as well. Gameplay (as well as pc specs/internet connection) are so important, that a better build can only increase the odds for more people to do endgame content, not guarantee it. The other way around, a very good player might be able to do all the content in the game with an average-good but not optimized build, so Idk. Last edited by juerk#7020 on Jan 3, 2017, 5:27:15 PM
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Hey can someone me explain how the herald setup works ?
Herald of Ice + assassin's mark + curse on hit + blink arrow... ? How does that work... ? I turn on herald of ice, then I blink into the pack of mob so they get cursed and I finish them ? That's seems a little crazy... jumping into pack of mob is only gonna make me insta die... Maybe I am missing something here... :/ Thx in advance :) |
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Since this thread is more viewed than a porn site, I'll post my need for help here.
I stated Breach with a Scion, cause I never leveled one, and decided for a TS build. I'm currently lv86 with Assassin and Deadeye Ascendant, still niss last 2 point from uber lab. Current tree: Current gear:
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TS - LMP (cause with GMP dps is too low) - PPAD - PtL - WED
Barrage - PPAD - Added Fire - Slower Proj - Crit Canche Hatred + HoT - CoH - Poacher Mark (only way to get frenzy) CWDT - IC - ID - Light Golem Problem is that I die too much, I have 4.8k life, capped res, 30 evade + 40 dodge. What is the next thing to change to get a bit safer? (Still very poor on Breach, so don't say RotC o a 6L Belly of the Beast...) |
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" When you shatter an enemy (through critting while applying cold damage to freeze, then killing them while they're frozen) Herald of Ice creates an explosion where the enemy dies which you cleary see, and as the Herald is linked to Curse on Hit + Assassin's Mark, the explosion spreads the curse. Blink Arrow is in there because it's a free single gem slot, and the clone cursing things may come in handy at some point. |
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" Find daresso defiance is also a good choice since it gives: -average Health -Leech -6% dodge -endurance charges that used by CWDT+IC(also find Vortex and temporal chains effective with cwdt) -Onslaught to run away faster Queen of the Forest as an option. Gear: Boots-atziri step, gives hp and solid spell dodge,good to compensate hp from Nest if you take it instead of your current helmet Helmet-rat's nest,solid damage boost Rings- two-stone rings with total 80+ resistances in case if ER is insufficient if you decided to change boots and/or helmet. Use blessed orb to reroll implicits, sometimes it give some freedom and options to change gear. Get rid of energy shield on gear if possible. Last edited by ZerotuL#1517 on Jan 5, 2017, 8:24:24 AM
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" Ok so after a little chat with someone in game... My problem with this Herald of ice setup seems to be that my main attack tornado shot has too few cold damage... Tornado shot : 12312 dps 418 to 887 physical damage 1016 to 2156 lightning damage 19 to 48 cold damage fires 5 arrows ... ... On my 6L i use : Tornado shot GMP Phys to lightning Physical projectile attack damage support Faster Attacks Weapon Elemental Damage support The herald spreading the curse doesnt happen a lot :s EDIT : Ok my problem was because I was runing hate instead of hatred and a fire golem instead of an ice golem... now it's working better :) Last edited by Raizdoe#6842 on Jan 5, 2017, 6:16:16 PM
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I wrote to NeverSink, but it seems he does not play now or does not develop Deadeye.
The biggest problem of mid life builds is one shot. Even with maximum Dodge&Evade and 5000hp rangers regularly die from one shot. Because of normalization of Dodge&Evade chance. We just never be able to have a few minute Dodge&Evade sequence. One shot always comes. So good question what body armours better helps against one shot?! Kaom's Heart - +500 to maximum Life Belly of the Beast - 40% increased maximum Life Kintsugi - 20% less Damage taken if you have not been Hit Recently Lightning Coil - 30% of Physical Damage taken as Lightning Damage The Perfect Form + free Arctic Armour + Iron Reflexes without Acrobatics! (I know no one plays Iron Reflexes. But with new The Perfect Form Iron Reflexes is an interesting idea) I thought about the poor synergy between Ricochet and Pierce. We want, that secondary TS arrows chain mobs. But pierce arrows doesnt chain and just fly away! So Drillneck (and 100% gem\nod pierce) with Ricochet is a very defrauding choice, isnt it?! At same reason Far Shot with Point Blank seems mediocrely. We want to shoot offscreen with Far Shot and shoot at close range with Point Blank. Last edited by Max_ak#2633 on Jan 5, 2017, 8:40:28 PM
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Hey guys,
my setup is no reach of the council and a drillneck, so I decides to to the drillneck skilltree with all the Piercing Shot nodes. As Ascendency I have - Far Shot - Fast and Deadly - Ricochet My Gem Setup is TS-FA-PPAD-GMP-Pierce-Poison. I think I don't do do enough damage as described here. I switched away from PTL-WED because I see tons of mobs with resist elemental damage, where I don't do enough damage. At the moment I can run (or should I say walk) tier 8 Atoll Map or Tropical Island but if I want to go higher I die faster than I can deal damage. 1) Is it better to change Ricochet to Endless Munition ? 2) Is it better to change the nodes from "Piercing Shots" to "Revenge of the Hunted" (I miss them at the moment) 3) If you see general proglem in my gear, please tell mem (my Profil is public(tornadoBaal)), my currency is about 50c, so cannot do alot. Please help me ! baalus |
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