[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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heythatguyedwin wrote:
What does "Conc/CONC" mean? I'll always be a noob. There's nothing your guide that explains what 'Conc' mean or is. Cast on NOT Crit? Cast on NO Chance? Critical on no Coincidence? Cream on No Cone? Chemicals on North Carolina? ???


Cost of Non-Conformance

source: http://www.acronymfinder.com/CONC.html



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Vashwix wrote:
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heythatguyedwin wrote:
What does "Conc/CONC" mean? I'll always be a noob. There's nothing your guide that explains what 'Conc' mean or is. Cast on NOT Crit? Cast on NO Chance? Critical on no Coincidence? Cream on No Cone? Chemicals on North Carolina? ???


Cost of Non-Conformance

source: http://www.acronymfinder.com/CONC.html





The cost of you not conforming to society is a burden on society.
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Skwouick wrote:
Hi, my bow is a Lioneye's Glare and it's time to upgrade.

I can't buy perfect rolls, but with the money i have i can buy a Harbringer (~320 pdps / ~8.5% crit ) or a Reach of the Council (~250 pdps / 6% crit / +4 arrow )

i still use a 5 link on my tornado shot (if i buy Reach of the council , i can switch GMP with something else)

which is better ? a Harbringer or a Reach of the council ? i have no clue ...



I have a Harbinger
and my wife's character has a legacy Reach. The Harbinger is much better. I would guess though that you would get better results with the Reach of the Council in your specific example? The GMP gem in the Harbinger would give you 26% less damage (around 80pdps?), so maybe close but I'm not sure of the exact equation. But then it also means adding an additional support gem for the Reach so that's why I'd say the Reach.
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Last edited by Turtledove#4014 on Nov 30, 2016, 5:26:32 AM
What about Raider Ascendancy buff. Would Raider TS Avatar of Chase + Avatar of Slaughter will be viable as a starter buiild to speed farm?
Raider buff is only directly relevant to flickerstrike and phaserun imho. (possibly cyclone.)
Maintaining frenzy charges during boss fights is/was not a problem for anything that does not consume them.

100% onslaught is a minor buff. Attackspeed didnt change. only increased 10% cast speed/10% move speed.
Veil is still better then the Chase line. Chase has more damage, but can not touch elem status immunity. (veil is actually faster movespeed as well.)

20-40% elem damage is a buff. but only for elemental. And, just puts it on par with pathfinders also 40% elemental. IT does not make it actually comparable with everything else pathfinder.

Master surgeon DID get wrecked. But, again this just makes the Master surgeon vs vet boywer vs master herbalist a question. As both Vet boywer and master herbalist, themselves are both better then Avatar of the slaughter.
Master surgeon may still be worth it for bleed flasks. That is super useful.
Last edited by Casia#1093 on Dec 1, 2016, 9:31:16 AM
can anyone help me my ranger lvl 68 have around 2.5k dps and around 10k evasion with aura and 2k hp.. yet im having even trouble tanking a tier 1 boss i even got a 75-80 element resists

im confused how do i show everyone my skill tree and gear .. i been following this build the defance one for a while and at this point im not sure what im doing wrong.



link to my skill tree i been following the defense skill tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeAO4FLQW1CC4IiREvFSAZjiF2I9Mj9iT9Kk0s6TBxMHwx-jWSNj031DnUOkI6szrhPs8_J0MxSshLeEz_TZJN404qUUdW-luvXWhfcGKsa5BsjG6qbyd07Xb3eu99dX8rhrOGzo19jb-VBZpqmvGbjZ2qoJ-mV7TFtfK95sEzwUnC7MjcyqnTftQj2L3awd0N3ajnVOjW6xTrY-0_7YPuDu968kX2o_4K_h3-j_66_94=?accountName=Saladin2&characterName=HUNTEDBEAST
Last edited by Saladin2#1584 on Dec 1, 2016, 11:22:57 AM
I've been following your guide, is it still viable? I was told to do ass grabbers or something, but he starts with a totally different character and is an assassin with a bow, so thats completely different... also he only has YT guides which are useless to me as I can't keep stopping playing to watch a bloody video (I mean why hasn't ziggyd made a build on here for reference or why doesn't someone put his builds on here? makes no sense that the most advised TS build in the game doesn't even have a build on the website)

All I care about is hitting a wall and having to start over... I've made it into cruel and enjoy playing via using your guide, but then I realized it;s very old and could be wrong now... games like this have tendency to change a lot.


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Saladin2 wrote:
can anyone help me my ranger lvl 68 have around 2.5k dps and around 10k evasion with aura and 2k hp.. yet im having even trouble tanking a tier 1 boss i even got a 75-80 element resists

im confused how do i show everyone my skill tree and gear .. i been following this build the defance one for a while and at this point im not sure what im doing wrong.



link to my skill tree i been following the defense skill tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAABeAO4FLQW1CC4IiREvFSAZjiF2I9Mj9iT9Kk0s6TBxMHwx-jWSNj031DnUOkI6szrhPs8_J0MxSshLeEz_TZJN404qUUdW-luvXWhfcGKsa5BsjG6qbyd07Xb3eu99dX8rhrOGzo19jb-VBZpqmvGbjZ2qoJ-mV7TFtfK95sEzwUnC7MjcyqnTftQj2L3awd0N3ajnVOjW6xTrY-0_7YPuDu968kX2o_4K_h3-j_66_94=?accountName=Saladin2&characterName=HUNTEDBEAST



Might just be me, but your gems make zero sense to me... thats probably why you are sucking at the minute... sorry. I mean, what are you even buffing, your just buffing buffs with no attacks!?
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Last edited by Umbral_Spectre#0144 on Dec 1, 2016, 11:35:46 AM
well you do got a point but im not sure with gems and the problem what gems should i go for but also its the defense and such.. my gear is well balanced thats what i believe yet tier 1 bos kill me easly and my hp is 2.3k which is very low im confused


i used to follow ziggyd tornado shot before after a while of quiting and coming back and my passive at 1 this was all i could find so i started this build.
Last edited by Saladin2#1584 on Dec 1, 2016, 1:14:19 PM
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Casia wrote:
Raider buff is only directly relevant to flickerstrike and phaserun imho. (possibly cyclone.)
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20-40% elem damage is a buff. but only for elemental. And, just puts it on par with pathfinders also 40% elemental. IT does not make it actually comparable with everything else pathfinder


Maybe I'm missing something here, but disregarding dmg, wouldn't Raider just "feel better"/be "more fun" (I know fun is subjective, but anyway)? I don't get why it always has to be about the highest dmg possible, my Ranger bow builds rarely lacked damage, even before ascendancies, the main problem for me is not getting oneshot from heavy hits/unlucky evasion rolls, or taking too long to "travel" through areas/maps.
I wanna try the Chase/Veil combo next league, because I think having perma Onslaught/Phasing without the need to invest in additional uniques/Frenzy/atk-/movement speed/movement skill would let you choose any gear/flask combination you wanna run while still having high atk-/movement speed (probably one silver flask to maintain this state in longer bossfights). On top of that some status immunity (blind drive-through box openings, lab mobs/traps, etc.), more evade, dodge, spell dodge.

For me that sounds more fun than spending multiple exalts for the infamous endgame flasks everybody seems to have and to facetank Uber bosses with PF, but maybe I'm really missing something here. Am I (honest question)? I skipped last two leagues, but I've already seen/read enough about BV, PF, Vinktars and Dying Sun to know I would not have fun with this (hopefully past) meta.
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