[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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SyZ wrote:
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Casia wrote:
Tornado shot stage 1 has 100% pierce. The shot that goes out, before it explodes into the aoe of arrows.
that part DOES do damage as well.

Pierce is then still useful, for aoe. as when the aoe arrows are fired, they do not innately pierce. So, firing into a pack of 10, without pierce, and 5 arrows.. Any given one of the pack, may only get hit by 1-3 of the arrows, as arrows are consumed, on the other targets. So, pierce, or chain is then valuable, as it lets the arrows continue to hit other targets.

So yes, for tornado shot, personally I would not get ricochet. I would favor ricochet for iceshot though.

yes with powerful prec, you will have a very high pierce chance, with little investment.
It however is NOT "doubling your dps." The damage from drillneck is additive with other sources of added damage. Such as projectile damage, physical damage, etc.

http://poeplanner.com/AAMAAURBQU1DQWdBQWRRQmVCUzBGdFFZakNDNElpUXFiRFkwUkx4YV9HWTRoZGlQMkpQMG1sUzVUTUhFd2ZESDZNcFEyUFRmVU9kUTZRajdQUXpGSGZrcDlTM2hNXzAyU1RpcFJSMU83VlA1VlMxV0ZXaHBicjExb1llSmlyR1ZOYkl4dGJIQlNkTzExeTNYOWR2ZDQ2M3J2ZXhSOWRYOENmeXVFYjRiT2gzYUowNHcyalgyTmZvMl9sTGlWQlpyeG00MmRxcUNmb2FTbHk2YmdwOVMxU0x2anZUYTk1cjZudjlYQk04Rkp3elBFb3NqY3lxbk5tTk52MDM3VUk5UkMyY2Jhd2QybzRkdmpuLWNLNTFUbmRPalc2bUxyWS0wXzdZUHZldmxqX01YLXV2N0lfOTRUMmhWRGFVNnhBYzllNmIzd3V3PT0AEEFBQUNBQWZRQVFIMEFRQUEAAA==

Parsing your build.
141 proj damage, 183 phys damage with bows, 56 phys, 24 phsy with attacks, 20 chaos.
so, you have +404% damage with phys, 141% with elem, +161% chaos.

Drillneck then would be max +100. (giving 241 %projectile ddamage.)
Giving you, +505% damage with phys, 241%with elem, 261% with chaos.
Actual damage gain would be more like 20% for physical, 70% for elemental.

Crit chance same deal. 100% added crit from powerful prec... is 7.44% on your bow, not doubling your crit or anything.

as to what %powerful prec or drillneck gives. its the value of the arrow fired.
So, drillneck gives +100% damage to stage 1 Tornado shot, no matter what, as its innate 100% pierce, same with seige ballista, etc.


Getting fusings. Vorici t6 master ratio is solid. 20×Orb of Fusing for 64×Jeweller's Orb
3.2 Jewelers per fusing.
Player market looks like 4.5 per average.


Thanks for the awesome analysis! That was detailed

I was able to pick up
which means I get BOTH mana passives back, essentially giving me 3 free passives at this moment. With 2 levels (level 93) I can get the 5 nodes required to hit the 30% pierce, or next level (92) I can get the 4 required by going along the southern route. Does that 10% matter? Would it still be worthwhile to use Drillneck, PP, these 4-5 nodes but WITHOUT a 6L? I only have 300 Fuses and am nowhere near 1500, and even if I were, I'm not sure this bow is anywhere near good enough to spend that much currency on.

EDIT: I just saw the other posts above me, so you would advise NOT using Drillneck, which means NOT going to any of those pierce nodes, but still using the PP and swapping out of Ricochet to get Endless Munitions? If so, that means I can use those 5 points elsewhere for either more resistances to make swapping to BiS uniques better, or maybe pick up some crit nodes. Each Jewel Socket is minimum 3 tiers away, and even just 2 of 4 good rolls is rare.


Honestly i ran pierce with drillneck before but switched to remove all my pierce since i do like the chain effect more (it seeks out targets rather then just go in straight line)
and if you have pierce it can't chain...

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAABeBS0ILgiJDY0PqxEvE9oVQxa_GYoZjiF2I9Mj9iSLJP0mlSoLKjguUzBxMHwx-jKUNj031DnUOkI6sz7PQzFHfkp9S3hM_02STipRR1O7VUtVhVoaW69daF3yYeJirGVNZdNsjG8ncFJxQ3Ttdct1_Xb3eu99dX8CfyuEb4TFhNmGzod2idOMNo19jX6Nv49glQWXBppqmvGbjZu1naqgn6OKpcum4KfUsQG1SLvjvTa95r6nv9XBM8MzwzrEosqpzZjPXtNv037UI9RC2cbawd2o45_nVOm96mLrY-0_7YPuDu968Lv8xf66_sj_3g==?accountName=Vioche&characterName=Vioche
my build currently, had to take a few weird STR nodes to fit my kaoms, gonna try and fix new rings or neck, or maybe jewels
sitting at 6K life atm...

got fairly lucky on my corrupt quiver, massive DPS boost

I made a reach version of the build. Since I am lazy, I play with bloodlust to automate generation of power / frenzy-charges.

I know the amu is crap, it's the next one to swap. Only in there because of leech.




Generally I am playing selffound, but I have a deep box from various seasons and playing on normal at the moment.

Would it be good to go snakebite to free a slot in the TS setup, and replace poison perhaps with an added chaos damage gem. Or another one?

With Auras I use the cold auras hatred and HOI for freezing and slowing, instead of grace for more evasion. In most cases I feel safe this way around.

The only problems so far are 1 - hits with bosses, when I'm too slow to react or don't see it coming from offscreen - and traps.
i'm a TS BR build with pathfinder, but i've one question. At full power i going to 230 k ~.

But i've some problem with reflect elemental then i've vinktar converted but it's better to take natures boon's or beteran bower ?
My name in-g : Qpaad

Pm me if i win trade, if afk retry again.
Last edited by Mugiwaraceleste#0963 on Sep 26, 2016, 6:54:31 AM
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kid_a_444 wrote:
What skill is useful until TS(lvl28)?


Use whatever u want. If i remember good, i was using multishot + fireshot.
Hi!

I have played after this guide for a few leagues now and it's really nice, thank you!

I want to try your windripper guide but passive tree is out of date. Anyone using windripper in 2.4 and have a fresh passive tree?
Ign:tomplos
I use LA and Blood Rage on lvl41.
LA skill link is GMP+Chain+PTL+WED.(non-physical damage?)
Life leech is not enough.
Am I doing something wrong?
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kid_a_444 wrote:
I use LA and Blood Rage on lvl41.
LA skill link is GMP+Chain+PTL+WED.(non-physical damage?)
Life leech is not enough.
Am I doing something wrong?


atziri promise?
im confused
please anyone help me
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kid_a_444 wrote:
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kid_a_444 wrote:
I use LA and Blood Rage on lvl41.
LA skill link is GMP+Chain+PTL+WED.(non-physical damage?)
Life leech is not enough.
Am I doing something wrong?


atziri promise?
im confused
please anyone help me


Can't look at your tree but yes definitely get Atziri's Promise !
What you guys think about running Vessel of Vinktar? That way, we can remove all leech nodes and it's a nice damage boost ! Would have to give up the "of Adrenaline" suffix on quicksilver flask though. Also gives 50% light resist (+6% max) so that can help sorting out resists on gear
Last edited by dguay#0846 on Sep 26, 2016, 10:31:54 PM
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dguay wrote:
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kid_a_444 wrote:
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kid_a_444 wrote:
I use LA and Blood Rage on lvl41.
LA skill link is GMP+Chain+PTL+WED.(non-physical damage?)
Life leech is not enough.
Am I doing something wrong?


atziri promise?
im confused
please anyone help me


Can't look at your tree but yes definitely get Atziri's Promise !


ty
my tree is same as regular tree on this guide.
LA with PTL have no phys damage, so #% of phys damage leech as life dont work.
atziri promise is only way to life leech?

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