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[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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reach of the council sounds like a really solid option
more info on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4mkpnd/unique_reach_of_the_council_spine_bow/?

poison is soo strong with TS would always use it as a 6th link

Oh wow, that unique is just silly. Effectively makes it a 7L with an amazing Harbinger rather than a 6L. I'll be running it with a +1 arrow corrupted Drillneck.

As far as the Poison gem goes, well it's not clear. It's "increased" poison damage, not "more" like Void Manipulation, and Assassin (as well as the passives around the Shadow starting area) gives you bonus chaos damage. If some other gems are way stronger it's worth ditching it and running Snakebite instead of Maligaro's. That's the question though: are other gems way stronger?
Reach is still a 6L, since you need to have Increased Crit Strikes to make it remotely tolerable.

Higher pDPS Harbs will always be better.

You are essentially getting:

(1) Entry level Harbinger damage
(2) faster APS than Harbinger
(3) Lower base crit ceiling than Harbinger (7.9% with ICS, Master Craft Harbs can get 8.75%)

Actually feature of the bow is no damage penalty from GMP, but probably not a replacement for a real end game bow.

Btw two post above me > has figured out why Drillneck gem links burdensome as fuck. Ironically better in this new bow actually.

Lels at people asking for Windripper Trees.
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Last edited by _Saranghaeyo_#5448 on Jun 6, 2016, 9:54:02 AM
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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:
Reach is still a 6L, since you need to have Increased Crit Strikes to make it remotely tolerable.

Higher pDPS Harbs will always be better.


I think you're being a bit overdramatic. Increased Crit Strikes gives it 447 PDPS afaict, which is up there with insane Harbingers. Plus, people ran Voltaxic last season which had the same base (Spine Bow). The bow will probably cost what a decent Harbinger would given how it only drops from the Pale Council.

I'm not too worried about the crit base given how I'm running Assassin. The ICS gem won't even be necessary.
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doctorsurgo wrote:
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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:
Reach is still a 6L, since you need to have Increased Crit Strikes to make it remotely tolerable.

Higher pDPS Harbs will always be better.


I think you're being a bit overdramatic. Increased Crit Strikes gives it 447 PDPS afaict, which is up there with insane Harbingers. Plus, people ran Voltaxic last season which had the same base (Spine Bow). The bow will probably cost what a decent Harbinger would given how it only drops from the Pale Council.

I'm not too worried about the crit base given how I'm running Assassin. The ICS gem won't even be necessary.


Don't know where that calculation came from but sure, you're the boss.

It's almost like not everyone is running Assassin to get the free ICS effect (shocker I know). So ya situationally you wouldn't need it due to Ascendancy. This being a Ranger forum with primarily Deadeye/Raider audience and much less Scion/Shadow I figured it was worth mentioning. Derp.

Guy in my guild has the bow already. It was 2 exa + change. Such expensive. Will only be expensive much later due to being league only~
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Last edited by _Saranghaeyo_#5448 on Jun 6, 2016, 10:40:54 AM
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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:
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doctorsurgo wrote:
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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:
Reach is still a 6L, since you need to have Increased Crit Strikes to make it remotely tolerable.

Higher pDPS Harbs will always be better.


I think you're being a bit overdramatic. Increased Crit Strikes gives it 447 PDPS afaict, which is up there with insane Harbingers. Plus, people ran Voltaxic last season which had the same base (Spine Bow). The bow will probably cost what a decent Harbinger would given how it only drops from the Pale Council.

I'm not too worried about the crit base given how I'm running Assassin. The ICS gem won't even be necessary.


Don't know where that calculation came from but sure, you're the boss.

There's no reason to get snippy. Here is such a calculation.

I mentioned multiple times in the reply thread how I was running Assassin for the poison effect so, again, no need to get snippy. But even without Assassin, if you're running a skill that uses GMP, this bow is totally worth awesome.
Hey guys! Two questions:

Are there any skill gems for Tornado Shot that I won't get on ranger?

AND, with drillneck being 2chaos all the sudden, is it worth it just to go drillneck as soon as you hit level 36?
Any thoughts on the new chest called kintsugi? http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kintsugi
As a phasing raider I think it could be pretty good. Usually we die because we dont dodge and get one shot and this chest may prevent this.
Did anyone try this chest?

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Hey guys! Two questions:

Are there any skill gems for Tornado Shot that I won't get on ranger?

No

AND, with drillneck being 2chaos all the sudden, is it worth it just to go drillneck as soon as you hit level 36?

Sure go for it. Just take the pierce cluster after getting the "core" tree. As a 4 Link take TS-Pierce-GMP-PPAD

Last edited by Sh1ft0r#1673 on Jun 7, 2016, 6:34:26 AM
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Sh1ft0r wrote:
Any thoughts on the new chest called kintsugi? http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kintsugi
As a phasing raider I think it could be pretty good. Usually we die because we dont dodge and get one shot and this chest may prevent this.
Did anyone try this chest?


Looks pretty nifty of you happen to get it. I still think a well crafted zodiac is our end game but until you get one that chest is really nice. We have a lot of uniques that benefit us so dropping extra resists off chest makes it that much harder for us to cap without near perfect jewelry.

I'm not sure if this chest or queen of the forest is better with alphas howl now. The 50% bonus to evasion would spike your movespeed nicely.
I actually like that. My second character will be a bow guy (when I first get enough currency Supporting to purchase a copy of the new bow for myself), so I am looking to playing around with some of the new Uniques.


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jakkharkness wrote:
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Sh1ft0r wrote:
Any thoughts on the new chest called kintsugi? http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kintsugi
As a phasing raider I think it could be pretty good. Usually we die because we dont dodge and get one shot and this chest may prevent this.
Did anyone try this chest?


Looks pretty nifty of you happen to get it. I still think a well crafted zodiac is our end game but until you get one that chest is really nice. We have a lot of uniques that benefit us so dropping extra resists off chest makes it that much harder for us to cap without near perfect jewelry.

I'm not sure if this chest or queen of the forest is better with alphas howl now. The 50% bonus to evasion would spike your movespeed nicely.


Think you might have flipped that around, you can't be wearing both armors at the same time, so the 50% Bonus Evasion wouldn't affect the Movespeed on QOTF since they can't be worn at the same time.
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Hey, 2 questions.
What skill is CONC which is linked to Blast Rain?
and what level should I have my Immortal Call and CWDT?

Thank you, great guide!

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