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dkowalch wrote:
When did you guys start using TS?

I am level 50 but it seems worse than split arrow right now. Maybe its just my 3l bow :(


I started using TS as soon as I got it. As soon as you can equip TS + LMP, I find it better than Split Arrow.
How does LA + Frost wall work. Can anyone give a detailed guide on it or point me to one? Guessing deadeye is best for that
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kmaldona wrote:
How does LA + Frost wall work. Can anyone give a detailed guide on it or point me to one? Guessing deadeye is best for that

I had best results stacking frost walls behind the target (for ice shot, in front of them). It can be really finicky though because most targets aren't stationary. The ones that flicker strike or leap strike you are a serious pain.

I'm running poison assassin on a new character I'm playing with my wife. I'm not sure what the best support set-up is though. GMP, Pierce and PPAD are obvious. After that it's less clear. Any ideas?

Slower Projectiles will double-dip with the poison (triple with the bleed!). I don't think Weapon Elemental Damage is particularly useful as we're not converting anything to lightning damage. Poison could work fine; if we don't run it we need to run Snakebite instead, and I can't think of anything better to link up. Anything better that would make it worth replacing Poison with Snakebite gloves? Increased Critical Damage maybe? We'd lose out by switching off of Maligaro's but we'd gain a lot of multiplier. There's also Void Manipulation but I'm not sure if the DPS gain there is better than something like Increased Critical Damage. If it wasn't for the Assassin node it would be strictly worse than just running Poison.
Last edited by doctorsurgo#6574 on Jun 6, 2016, 12:58:46 AM
And back to ranger again.

Tried Shadow Avalanche, but I just don't like leveling a toon as "something else" just to switch later.

Then Witch Crit Arc, but once in cruel I thought, how in hell am I gonna beat endgame Izaro
or higher tier twinned maps with single target like this and (somewhat) low defenses?

I know there's probably a lot of other builds that can do this, but TS Ranger is one of those
"Jack of all trades, master of none" builds.

Only that I lost 3 days now in the new league ... no biggie right, I hope? :(
Last edited by Cr4v3n#1308 on Jun 6, 2016, 5:20:15 AM
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doctorsurgo wrote:
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kmaldona wrote:
How does LA + Frost wall work. Can anyone give a detailed guide on it or point me to one? Guessing deadeye is best for that

I had best results stacking frost walls behind the target (for ice shot, in front of them). It can be really finicky though because most targets aren't stationary. The ones that flicker strike or leap strike you are a serious pain.

I'm running poison assassin on a new character I'm playing with my wife. I'm not sure what the best support set-up is though. GMP, Pierce and PPAD are obvious. After that it's less clear. Any ideas?

Slower Projectiles will double-dip with the poison (triple with the bleed!). I don't think Weapon Elemental Damage is particularly useful as we're not converting anything to lightning damage. Poison could work fine; if we don't run it we need to run Snakebite instead, and I can't think of anything better to link up. Anything better that would make it worth replacing Poison with Snakebite gloves? Increased Critical Damage maybe? We'd lose out by switching off of Maligaro's but we'd gain a lot of multiplier. There's also Void Manipulation but I'm not sure if the DPS gain there is better than something like Increased Critical Damage. If it wasn't for the Assassin node it would be strictly worse than just running Poison.


I am doing the same build and asked myself the same questions. What is your main skill btw? I am mostly considering frenzy and TS. When i reach 5 linked i will use poison support first and see how it works. I am also thinking about using reach of the council for some time. Do you think that is any good?
hey,

1 little thing improve a little bit ^^

I would rather pick the nullification skill, which provides +15% evasion; 5% life; 10% max energy shield and 8% to all resists, then just +5% life.

Everything else seems and feels GREAT.
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lophius wrote:
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doctorsurgo wrote:
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kmaldona wrote:
How does LA + Frost wall work. Can anyone give a detailed guide on it or point me to one? Guessing deadeye is best for that

I had best results stacking frost walls behind the target (for ice shot, in front of them). It can be really finicky though because most targets aren't stationary. The ones that flicker strike or leap strike you are a serious pain.

I'm running poison assassin on a new character I'm playing with my wife. I'm not sure what the best support set-up is though. GMP, Pierce and PPAD are obvious. After that it's less clear. Any ideas?

Slower Projectiles will double-dip with the poison (triple with the bleed!). I don't think Weapon Elemental Damage is particularly useful as we're not converting anything to lightning damage. Poison could work fine; if we don't run it we need to run Snakebite instead, and I can't think of anything better to link up. Anything better that would make it worth replacing Poison with Snakebite gloves? Increased Critical Damage maybe? We'd lose out by switching off of Maligaro's but we'd gain a lot of multiplier. There's also Void Manipulation but I'm not sure if the DPS gain there is better than something like Increased Critical Damage. If it wasn't for the Assassin node it would be strictly worse than just running Poison.


I am doing the same build and asked myself the same questions. What is your main skill btw? I am mostly considering frenzy and TS. When i reach 5 linked i will use poison support first and see how it works. I am also thinking about using reach of the council for some time. Do you think that is any good?


reach of the council sounds like a really solid option
more info on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4mkpnd/unique_reach_of_the_council_spine_bow/?

poison is soo strong with TS would always use it as a 6th link

About LA + Frost wall:
I am having the same issues with my PSC char. Its fine when the target is not moving much. But vs moving target its a huge pain (gorge...).
I am thinking about going burning arrow as single target spell. I really dont like blast rain. If someone has any input regarding single target damage, i would greatly appreciate it. (Char in profile)
Last edited by Sh1ft0r#1673 on Jun 6, 2016, 8:27:11 AM
Sorry if it's a dumb question and sorry for my english (i'm french)

I play with the classic NerverSink's build, my actual version :


and i have loot a Death's harp and i transform it a Death's Opus and with a improved Signal Fire.



I'm actually a noob with theory crafting and i follow the guide with attention, and i want to understand if a bow like that which has 200 dps is better or not a bow Lioneye' glare or other with 350dps for example despite 2 additional arrows suffix and if it's not better, when i should replace my bow.

I know that NerverSink made a paragraph on the bow but i would just understand how it's work.

Thanks and thank you NerverSink for you "easily" build !
Need update on windripper skill trees
So Drillneck is insanely cheap this season for some reason.

I see there is a Drillneck skill tree in the OP, is the drillneck tree better than non-drillneck tree? Is there any reason not to do Drillneck for TS?

Also if Drillneck is the answer, what is the gem set up? TS-PPD-PIERCE-GMP-??? I am guessing
Last edited by dkowalch#7629 on Jun 6, 2016, 9:21:13 AM

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