[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Frankenberry wrote:

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kabumpe wrote:

Hey, Im currently looking to do atziri but Im incredibly worried about the mirror one. Im using the +1 chain ascendancy and Im pretty sure I can 1shot myself if it chains onto the mirror split. I have 87% accuracy but I have the feeling Im gonna be hitting myself often enough, considering I can most likely die in a single hit. Do you guys have any suggestions as to how to deal with this?

Use abilities that cannot chain or are immune to reflect

Blast Rain setup or Puncture Trap.

Oh! I thought puncture chained even in the trap, thanks.

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kabumpe wrote:

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Frankenberry wrote:

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kabumpe wrote:

Hey, Im currently looking to do atziri but Im incredibly worried about the mirror one. Im using the +1 chain ascendancy and Im pretty sure I can 1shot myself if it chains onto the mirror split. I have 87% accuracy but I have the feeling Im gonna be hitting myself often enough, considering I can most likely die in a single hit. Do you guys have any suggestions as to how to deal with this?

Use abilities that cannot chain or are immune to reflect

Blast Rain setup or Puncture Trap.

Oh! I thought puncture chained even in the trap, thanks.

It does but trap damage is not reflected back at you :)

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Frankenberry wrote:

It does but trap damage is not reflected back at you :)

Ah yeah, that does make sense. What Im worried about, though, is that even with decently leveled gems my Avg damage with the trap setup is really low compared to a self cast puncture. It drops from about 40k to around 15k. Thats usintg Trap Damage and Point Blank.

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kabumpe wrote:

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Frankenberry wrote:

It does but trap damage is not reflected back at you :)

Ah yeah, that does make sense. What Im worried about, though, is that even with decently leveled gems my Avg damage with the trap setup is really low compared to a self cast puncture. It drops from about 40k to around 15k. Thats usintg Trap Damage and Point Blank.

As someone who has farmed Atziri a good amount, let me say that attack Puncture is really not that great for her. Trap is imo always the superior option.

Also just a comment on Tooltip DPS, it is irrelevant and baits people into making shitty decisions with skill gems overall. Do practice runs and get the proper feel for the mechanics of the fight.

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

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kabumpe wrote:

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Frankenberry wrote:

Also just a comment on Tooltip DPS, it is irrelevant and baits people into making shitty decisions with skill gems overall. Do practice runs and get the proper feel for the mechanics of the fight.

My guess is that many folks like ias this much because it rises numbers so high. Who needs to check how many out of skill shots are in fact default attacks due to no mana? Toolpit matters ;)
And 100% honestly I'm not any better, I have such intense inner fight whenever I must cut my dmg (or acutally size of my toolpit.)

^ Think you messed up the quoting there.

Two things that they'll write on my POE tombstone, hater of Drillneck (end game on Phys Bow chars) and Tooltip DPS.

Yeah, I tried to say some theory of mine about toolpit in general and phys one in particular, then I remind that last time when I tried,, no one knew what I'm trying to say :S

so instead healthy honest toolpit, 100% of time fueled like it should be fueled. And casused me just 1 death for 60% or 70%. Plus makes you feel like you are brain surgeon a little. You grow second pair of eyes ;p


edit:now it's ok

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

As someone who has farmed Atziri a good amount, let me say that attack Puncture is really not that great for her. Trap is imo always the superior option.

Also just a comment on Tooltip DPS, it is irrelevant and baits people into making shitty decisions with skill gems overall. Do practice runs and get the proper feel for the mechanics of the fight.

Ah thanks for the tips! Im still quite worried however, as I tested the damage on rare mobs on a tier 1 map and it was still pretty bad. Im not entirely sure how this is going to work, to be honest, and leveling the skill gems further would only improve a few percent of damage, like around 10%. I did also manually calculate the damage based on every multiplier and it seemed exactly right.

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kabumpe wrote:

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

As someone who has farmed Atziri a good amount, let me say that attack Puncture is really not that great for her. Trap is imo always the superior option.

Also just a comment on Tooltip DPS, it is irrelevant and baits people into making shitty decisions with skill gems overall. Do practice runs and get the proper feel for the mechanics of the fight.

Ah thanks for the tips! Im still quite worried however, as I tested the damage on rare mobs on a tier 1 map and it was still pretty bad. Im not entirely sure how this is going to work, to be honest, and leveling the skill gems further would only improve a few percent of damage, like around 10%. I did also manually calculate the damage based on every multiplier and it seemed exactly right.

What does your gear look like?

Have you tried Atziri yet?

Can try to provide tips.

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Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

What does your gear look like?

Have you tried Atziri yet?

Can try to provide tips.

Thanks for offering so much help ^^ Ive been doing some more testing and it seems my first test had something wrong with it, maybe I got unlucky and didnt get crits several times in a row. The damage doesnt seem too bad, actually, I havent tried Atziri yet but I think I will now. Debating whether to reroll my 5-link socket colors to all green and add in poison or to just leave the 4 link setup as it is.

Also my gear is almost identical to one of the example gears in the main post. Rat's nest, Maligaro's, Atziri's Step, 330 PDPS/410 total DPS harbinger bow, a very similar chest armor with about 900 evasion and good life+resists, physical Doryani's Invitation and some decent jewelry I use to boost my stats so I can use the int/str gems and get the last resists I needed. No added crit on the jewelry though.

Edit: Did some further testing, did a tier 5 map boss with the traps, it is a bit worrying as I wasnt doing very much damage, but it wasnt terrible either. It definitely took longer than it would have self casting it, probably due to the time the traps took to recharge. But that might not be as bad during atziri fight since you cant quite stand still and spam.