[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Neurik wrote:
I am a little embarrassed to be asking this but here goes. Is there a good summary or FAQ of what exactly will happen with the launch of Ascendancy? I am assuming there will be brand new challenge leagues, both softcore and hardcore with a virgin economy. All Talisman characters will flow to their parent leagues either standard or hardcore. Will I be able to play my current SC Talisman Ranger with the ascendancy content on standard or should I be planning on re-rolling a new character?

Just trying to mentally prepare for the grind of starting fresh if that is in fact the case and I want to check out the new content.


Thanks in advance.

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Ascendancy is not a league. It is a small expansion which is available for both permanent and temporary league characters. Perandus leagues and the Perandus coins are only available in the temporary leagues. So yes - you can try out ascendancy classes in standard league with your current character.
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Vendetta wrote:
Okey I want to ask a question, I am making a ranger based on this build and I have come along with my gear, so I can start doing it. My question will be asked after I show you what i have in mind,

I have a 5 link bow - will link it with Tornado Shot - Greater Multiple Projectile - Phyzical Projectile attack damage - Phyzical to Lightning - Weapon Elemental Damage , in the remaining slot that is not link i will go faster attacks.

Armor 5 link - Frenzy - Phyzical projectile attack damage - Slower projectile - Phyizical to lightning - Weapon Elemental Damage, and in the remaining slot I will go blink arrow.

1st 4 link - Hatred - Herald of Thunder - Cast on hit - Assasins Mark
2st 4 link - Immortal Call - Increased Duration - Cast on Damage taken and summon ice golem.

And I do not know what to add to the 3st 4link . If I would have had 6 link in both bow and chest I would have know to link gollem and faster attack blink arrow and something else, but right now my build is made arround 5 links so I do not know what combo to make in the remaining 4 link, any sugestions ?


4L = Vaal Grace / Vaal Haste + Inc. Dur. + Blood Rage + Faster Casting

CoH setup more or less rules out Faster attack linked to your Blink Arrow, while it is more optimal with a simple herald of ash setup.
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IlyaK1986 wrote:
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soilwork3r wrote:
i will probably go with raider. this build has lots of charges so raider tree will give huge benefits to damage//run//ias, also there is onslaught buff.
on the othere hand deadeye gives more damage (but less ias//no movespeed), and there is chain effect which could give insane dps boost with tornado, but as someone mentioned in this topic chain results in loss of "control" which can kill you with reflect mobs.


Can tornado shot actually chain? I was under the impression that the initial projectile pierced and after the explosion, that was it.

Also, you definitely do not want that if you plan on using tshot on atziri split phase. Then again, you can use blast rain, but that means your chain ascendancy point would be just wasted.


You should never use Tornado shot in her split phase. That is a train heading straight to fail-town x)
if i wanna do this ranger build with scion ? ...

have NEversinks made this build for scion also ?

if so ..can u add me link pls ???




many thnx.
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Narsilian wrote:
if i wanna do this ranger build with scion ? ...

have NEversinks made this build for scion also ?

if so ..can u add me link pls ???


many thnx.


Something like this
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOygDlm49voBgQ4MJb56cpMpK8bOHE1-wS1d3B5u1wOOExcM6JIsqOA-rFr8mlXX9YeKEb1VL1EKMNrVIidPrY3BSES82PZ2qbIxirLTFwuwFtY2_1CNRR5UFCIma8V1oyqnnVCT9_9431O0_MHx_KznUdvcx-qCfjX0j9k2So4ruDu96034AXhmO7YMILn11_rr8xQ2Nh3bjn0p9W68hdobOwTOQCk4qI9OPYEz_QzGNfre2dcvqYr6nZU29Nkd-hNnawXTtBS167y5T02_ZxjKUfwKm4A==
but a Ranger start just looks flat out better. Maybe it is just because I am more used to make Ranger passive setups.
Hi all,

I started playing this game like 5-6 months ago and by then Tornado shot was the real thing, i always wanted to play the build but i never believed i will survive because i was pretty new and i play always hardcore.

So i instead play Lame totem or incinerate or that kind of semi boring staff ( i hate totems now).

Now i am a little bit more experienced and i want to try an evasion build, and since i always wanted to try tornado shot i though... ok is time to ascend with TS!

I have checked the guide and i like a lot the defensive tree with 205% life and phase acro, but since ascendancy change things and you can go duelist fortify i dont know if it is better to adjust that tree to duelist and play like that.
The issue is that i feel like our early game if we start on duelist is terrible, is my feeling true?

ALso when we talk about auras, i find difficult to decide between grace of hatred, sometimes sruvive is a matter of killing fast instead of been tanky, so even if is hardcore and i am still learning the game... will hatred be better?



Did you recommend me a different class?


I am also a little bit concern about the fact than on some previous pages people were telling that they get a lot of times one shotted... since i want to face ascendancy hardcore... is this TS build viable or shall i change my mind?

Also since i am still a newb and dont know very well the market i have some concerns aboout gearing up. On previous messages i find that some poster have issue with their DPS when they reach tier 5-6 maps and onwards... is gear hard to get for this build? sall i change to a more affordable build? shall i kneel to the boredom of caustic arrow?

Sorry for the wall of text, like all of you im super hyped and really want to play TS, I want this to be my first 100 char.

PD_ ALso i will be no lifing weekend and monday so if someone feels like giving me advice during the league that would be awesome.

If i end up going ts i will try to share my progress with you.
Thanks to all the posters they really helped me :)
Last edited by Zalamera#3613 on Mar 2, 2016, 2:43:58 PM
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Zalamera wrote:
Hi all,

I started playing this game like 5-6 months ago and by then Tornado shot was the real thing, i always wanted to play the build but i never believed i will survive because i was pretty new and i play always hardcore.

So i instead play Lame totem or incinerate or that kind of semi boring staff ( i hate totems now).

Now i am a little bit more experienced and i want to try an evasion build, and since i always wanted to try tornado shot i though... ok is time to ascend with TS!

I have checked the guide and i like a lot the defensive tree with 205% life and phase acro, but since ascendancy change things and you can go duelist fortify i dont know if it is better to adjust that tree to duelist and play like that.
The issue is that i feel like our early game if we start on duelist is terrible, is my feeling true?

ALso when we talk about auras, i find difficult to decide between grace of hatred, sometimes sruvive is a matter of killing fast instead of been tanky, so even if is hardcore and i am still learning the game... will hatred be better?



Did you recommend me a different class?


I am also a little bit concern about the fact than on some previous pages people were telling that they get a lot of times one shotted... since i want to face ascendancy hardcore... is this TS build viable or shall i change my mind?

Also since i am still a newb and dont know very well the market i have some concerns aboout gearing up. On previous messages i find that some poster have issue with their DPS when they reach tier 5-6 maps and onwards... is gear hard to get for this build? sall i change to a more affordable build? shall i kneel to the boredom of caustic arrow?

Sorry for the wall of text, like all of you im super hyped and really want to play TS, I want this to be my first 100 char.

PD_ ALso i will be no lifing weekend and monday so if someone feels like giving me advice during the league that would be awesome.

If i end up going ts i will try to share my progress with you.
Thanks to all the posters they really helped me :)


My plan for a lvl 91 setup for softcore - (hp,passive, passive)
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-73p9de4O_rqjivzFu-Mj9g2NxKJNko19W6-HdqfUMHyQCiF2Tirjn_7IfytRR4bOTP8j00p9oaQ51JUF51Q31I2_wTNDMY9g4dt299nGCIkk_e0_BbXUI9rBjX4GIzH6MpSa8f_ewuwwcXTtLlO3tnsUoJ9_Al1otMUqW92oBS3Tb3XLpuDKqWKsefZLeHrv6mK-p2yMQzY6QmVNnapS7L02Nj1HfutjhNm1SBEvAdzUQnfjhG-pbnX9wBoWv3gNbzsmlbXyYeI1klVL_o_YvYw2idNwUg==


To make it safer you can always just take more nodes in the scion life wheel earlier and forfeit a bit of damage :)
Thank you im checking right now and i have some questions:

Did you use frenzy as a second skill to get charges and curse? I have tried to figure out bloodrage but we can only get 3.6% instead of 4% (if i am not mistaken) and i do not fel confortable if i cna not regen 100%.
Did you ever try blood rage?

WHich auras are your running? HAve u tried both hatred and grace? Wich one do you think is better?
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Zalamera wrote:
Thank you im checking right now and i have some questions:

Did you use frenzy as a second skill to get charges and curse? I have tried to figure out bloodrage but we can only get 3.6% instead of 4% (if i am not mistaken) and i do not fel confortable if i cna not regen 100%.
Did you ever try blood rage?

WHich auras are your running? HAve u tried both hatred and grace? Wich one do you think is better?


I am in softcore so I run with Hatred. Only using Grace / Haste elemental reflect maps (also removing added fire gems and so on, so I deal 0 elemental damage).

Yes I use Blood Rage and Blast Rain as single target skill :) (There is a risk they will nerf Blast Rain though in which base I might switch to burning arrow).
Last edited by Frankenberry#0590 on Mar 2, 2016, 3:21:46 PM
Hi, I just bought a divination distillate in the windripper build and it doesnt seem to work. how do we keep the flask up when we do a map? do i really have to follow the passive skill tree? Thanks!

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