[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Neurik wrote:


Perfect summary thanks, since I am mainly looking for speed runs on this character at this point I will most likely go Raider which was where I was sort of leaning.

Thanks!!


Then you might want to look into a Scion, because her Raider passive may be better in certain situations and can be combined with another class passive like Berserker to get leech with volatxic if you ever want to do it.
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Teplokot wrote:
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Neurik wrote:


Perfect summary thanks, since I am mainly looking for speed runs on this character at this point I will most likely go Raider which was where I was sort of leaning.

Thanks!!


Then you might want to look into a Scion, because her Raider passive may be better in certain situations and can be combined with another class passive like Berserker to get leech with volatxic if you ever want to do it.


Scion is only viable if you want to play really safe with a 6k+ lifepool. Which is great to play, but nothing he's aiming for. For a speedfarmer ranger as raider is perfectly fine and a lot stronger than any scion-options.
Last edited by basta1982#7340 on Feb 26, 2016, 4:07:38 PM
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basta1982 wrote:
Scion is only viable if you want to play really safe with a 6k+ lifepool. Which is great to play, but nothing he's aiming for. For a speedfarmer ranger as raider is perfectly fine and a lot stronger than any scion-options.



I see how Raider may be appealing to some. So what a combination of Avatar of the Slaughter and Rapid assault gives? Lets see.

Onslaught will be permanent on packs and most bosses with summons, so its a 20% additional movement speed. With the main selling point of the prestige - additional frenzy charge - an average ranger will have a 7 frenzy charges and that is another 14% movement speed. Even with Atziri's Step its going to be a lot of movement speed, not even talking about Darkray Vectors.

On top of it there is 15% Increased attack speed by default. Another 20% from Onslaught. 21% increased attack speed on full frenzy charges adds to a whooping 56% increased attack speed (not even counting the 28% increased attacks speed from Frenzy Charges themselves). Thats really helpful a Harbinger Bow users (but an overkill for a budget Lioneye).

All in all it should feel great playing it if you can sustain such a high attack speed which should not be that hard.

I have a different angle so Id still chose an assassin or deadeye or scion.
Great build. Maybe litle slow in start but its nice later. Using it from start of Talisman league. Hope for update on new Ascendency patch.

I would like your help of boosting my HP pool. Im currently on 3.7k hp. TS gote me on 40k dps mixed elemental and phy damage with Tabula 6L with HoI,Hatred,blood rage and 7 frenzy. Ill post my equ and passive tree here. I am 86 lvl, caped elemental ress, chaos -60. midtire maps are no problem for clearing to me exept some bosses that kill me in 1 shot.



Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4FLQW1BiMILgiJCpsNjRa_GY4ajRutIXYj9iT9JpUwcTB8MgEylDY9N9Q51DpCPs9DMUp9S3hM_02STipRR1T-VUtVhVoaWyZbr11oYeJirGegbIxtbG_ydO11_Xjreu97FH11fwJ_K3_7hG-Gzod2jDaNfY1-jb-QCpS4lQWa8Zsmm42dqqCfoaSly6bgp9SyGbVIu-O95sEzwUnDM8SiyNzKqc96037UI9RC2cbawd2o4dvjn-cK51TndOjW6xTtP-2D73r5Y_zF_h3-uv7I_94=
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djolodjolo026 wrote:
Great build. Maybe litle slow in start but its nice later. Using it from start of Talisman league. Hope for update on new Ascendency patch.

I would like your help of boosting my HP pool. Im currently on 3.7k hp. TS gote me on 40k dps mixed elemental and phy damage with Tabula 6L with HoI,Hatred,blood rage and 7 frenzy. Ill post my equ and passive tree here. I am 86 lvl, caped elemental ress, chaos -60. midtire maps are no problem for clearing to me exept some bosses that kill me in 1 shot.



Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4FLQW1BiMILgiJCpsNjRa_GY4ajRutIXYj9iT9JpUwcTB8MgEylDY9N9Q51DpCPs9DMUp9S3hM_02STipRR1T-VUtVhVoaWyZbr11oYeJirGegbIxtbG_ydO11_Xjreu97FH11fwJ_K3_7hG-Gzod2jDaNfY1-jb-QCpS4lQWa8Zsmm42dqqCfoaSly6bgp9SyGbVIu-O95sEzwUnDM8SiyNzKqc96037UI9RC2cbawd2o4dvjn-cK51TndOjW6xTtP-2D73r5Y_zF_h3-uv7I_94=


Respecc:
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-73p9de4O_rqjivzFu-Mj9g2NxKJNko19W6-HdqfUMHyQCk4qIXbjn_7IfytRR0z_hs5KfaGkOdQ31I2_lQXnVEMxwTPh23b37T8FtdQj2cYIiST92sGNfsMzBiMx-ujWMHEylJrx_9507be2Whp7FKCfmybrFOd03ah_Al1oBS11yzIBbWxLeKbgyql67-pivqeyGTY9tUg6QmVNz3qdqlWF1EK9NmHrbIyly4RvR356U2Ksdf0WvyaVYeJVS4w2idNwUiPTj2A=


Throw out Tabula asap. Get boots with movement speed.
After that focus on replacing your rings (keep ventors if you like the rarity. Do not keep it for the resistance) and belt.
Last edited by Frankenberry#0590 on Feb 27, 2016, 9:44:07 AM
@Frank
I have to say , I dont know how many times i keep looking at your tree and mine to see what is wrong with mine... with just a 2 point difference. I keep forgetting that I primarily went for that to get a little bit of speed and EV boost with QoTF.
But obviously I cant really max out dps by doing that. Poison gem got fucked so puncture trap with poison would need investment in 2-3 poison/dot nodes for that to be an effective nuke..
I hope the deadeye nodes to make up for dps loss would be sufficient.

I am trying to understand purely by dps which would give more +1 chain vs +1 arrow.
is +1 chain same as echo? like the one we get from the shrine
or is it like adding a chain gem support to the skill.

Domine Non Es Dignus
Nope, echo repeats skill. +1 chain is just like the support gem, except it's +1 instead of +2.
Personally, I don't like much any of them. With +1 arrow, aiming with a single target skill can be sketchy, and with +1 chain, you also lose some control on your single target, for example it could chain on a ripy reflect monster nearby (like atziri clone :s). Blast Rain solves both of these issues though.
If I went with Deadeye, I guess I'd chose Endless Munitions however, because this node has more utility (the added accuracy must not be underestimated). The last two points would be for Sharp and Venomous, to help on long fights, but powerful precision match well too, especially if the pierce gem is buffed (I've heard so).

edit: on paper, +1 chain provides more hits:
LA/GMP/Chain setup with +1 proj: 6*2*3 = 36 hits at most
LA/GMP/Chain setup with +1 chain: 5*3*3 = 45 hits at most
Split chain with +1 proj: 7*2 = 14 hits
Split chain with +1 chain: 6*3 = 18 hits
Ranger builds list: /917964
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Last edited by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on Feb 27, 2016, 3:53:30 PM
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Panini_aux_olives wrote:
but powerful precision match well too, especially if the pierce gem is buffed (I've heard so).


It have more damage modifier now in addition to what it had before. Opens a possibility to go full pierce with drillneck for addition of 100% increased crit chance and 100% increased damage. Like endless munitions with 100% pierce.

For Lightning Arrow one chain might be better because it may be enough to skip the chain gem completely (goodbye 31% less damage modifier).

It is confirmed that we could relocate the points for 5 regrets each, we can play with the build all we want now. Even more, we can change prestige classes so one can start as a Raider and then become a Deadeye to farm Atziri. Yay
That's some good info.
Also, I forgot about dropping chain totally. That's indeed a good idea, worth trying at least.
Ranger builds list: /917964
When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch?
If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch.
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Been thinking about what to do when the new league hits. Want to start as a Scion in the new league to use 2 Ascendency classes. Want to choose Deadeye + Slayer/Inquisistor/Pathfinder. I just want to be a bit tanky so that I don't die that fast and can farm very fast so that I can start the new league with good drops/currency. What do you guys suggest?

My Build so far that I'm working with

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIBm42v6wguAdHtg6JAGY70-ABeoSLTfsSi73p9dZcG7g7-uhmKVvr8xcM6fysNjZu1JIs51DB81opbr4d2hMUPq3b3jX1RR04qIXbjnxa_bWwx-iP2Ps831I2_51RM_4bOSn0mlTY9oJ9Nkr3m7T_UIyT9QzHBM2HinapVhTBx_97awY1-wzNVS2yMpcvdqHTtLlO3tloajDZirEt4BS3Tb3XLidM6Qnrv6mK-p3BSZU29Nl-wykpRTKxHfVsqTT8nSshaUqiam13yl8jcwUn-HXvDR35vnpykhxN3B6fU_sg=

What could be done better?
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