[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Sharpeyx wrote:
ok i dont know where i gone wrong i'm level 89 finished taking all my damage nodes, i have 5 k life a decent harbinger 342 pdps , no rats or maligaros tough, my amulet takes place for rats with about 67 crit chance,i have a rare 6 link armor, and my tooltip is something like this, 11.3k in town , 15.6k buffed, 21k with charges, can you point me the right way?


I have the same dps bow and have around 40k DPS, buffed (7 frenzy + 3 power). Are your gems leveled and q?

I have Rat's but no Maligaro's. I have 70% crit chance with 3 power charges. My res are all overcaped so i can either get Maligaro's or keep the gloves (i have one with 400 evasion and 84% res) and get Atziri's step.

I guess Maligaro's will give me some damage boost, but Atziri's step would give me some defense (430 more evasion and 16% spell dodge). How much dmg boost are we talking about with Maligaro's?

What would you recomend?

Ty



Last edited by memberx#0685 on Jan 25, 2016, 4:19:16 AM
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vasan wrote:
Hey there, following this guide and the HC version of the skilltree. Really like it this far(lvl 80). I'm using LA+BR. And for me it feels a bit like that t6 and higher maps are kinda dangerous, was wondering if its because of my gear or just because im a lazy a** who doesnt want to use enduring cry every x seconds. I'm currently experimenting with other defensive CWDT Setups, so I'd love to get some recommendations(just noticed that vaal grace doesnt activate from CWDT :D). As well I'd love to hear what you guys recommend me to upgrade. Here's my Gear (ofc I survivability is #1 prio but I dont want to loose dps :D(well i should be easyily be able to get way more dps by upgradeing my bow(but anyways I feel good with the dmg I deal atm))). I got Frenzy just for sustaining charges on bosses, when the charges from bloodrage are about to run out

Have the same Problem with Rare maps at lvl 91 XD (ca same HP, but around 9000 evasion) bosses and exile's can really kill you within seconds if you have a bad mod, i'm currently saving to 6-link my chest, will push my hp far over 5000, i hope it get's easier then... found a lightning coil today, maybe i will try it out...



I think NeverSink have done a gret job on this build.. but there's too much choice and the relationship with your main items / tree it's hidden and hard to detect.. for example I've notice these points:


- LC is tooo much expensive in other items, leveling with it is frustrating if you don't have endgame items..

- Mobility is a key of this build: if you run fast you can literally dance with packs and bosses, If you bring 3 life flask consider to have 1 flask with mobility mod

- Maligaro or atziri step? = Dps or defense?

- HoI + CoH + AM = gg

- Enfeeble replace LC for me atm -> cursed enemies do much more less psy (and ele) dps than have LC, so the problem is "Am I sure to curse the strike will kill me?" if there's a boss and you've got mobility for me you can go with enfeeble

I've tried double curse / high eva / blasphemy ecc... and many others combination to gain survability with minimum dps loss.. for now the best one gives to LC a very secondary role: for example



with 2 cwdt setup and puncture/frenzy in second arrow (I use it only for bosses / bosses who don't move)



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Sharpeyx wrote:
ok i dont know where i gone wrong i'm level 89 finished taking all my damage nodes, i have 5 k life a decent harbinger 342 pdps , no rats or maligaros tough, my amulet takes place for rats with about 67 crit chance,i have a rare 6 link armor, and my tooltip is something like this, 11.3k in town , 15.6k buffed, 21k with charges, can you point me the right way?
I bet you lack crit multi. I don't use Rat's Nest and Maligaro, but I have a ton of crit multi on gear (in std, so legacy amu...), but still a high crit multi can achieved in Talisman. If your quiver doesn't have at lest 30% crit multi, you should consider changing it. Ideally go for a spike point with additional crit chance roll (and multi ;)). Broadhead are fine too.

edit: for cheap high crit multi, you can also consider facebreaker. It's very effective at increasing your damage.
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Last edited by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on Jan 25, 2016, 10:22:37 AM
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My first thought was to sell it (3ex) in order to get some upgrades (my gear is junk at the moment), but I'm not sure if I can buy something really good for that 3ex. Which upgrade is more important for me? (lvl 87, 4.2k life) Or should I just use the flask?

My current gear

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thanks for info guys i'll start upgrading on my gear now just for the lol but dont laugh this is my gear
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i'll first upgrade my gems and gear,plus itsnot that i dont like my dps is just i cant seem to reach that dps, i'm doing t13 maps atm and i run them no problem, plus as yiu can seem i still didnt setup my single target skill guess it will be frenzy since everyone uses it
@DSJkaa: I'd keep the flask, it will increase both your damage and survivability. It's really a BiS flask for the build. Put it instead of your jade flask.

Imho, you're a bit locked in your upgrades by your resistances, I'd try to look for an armor with more res to be able to change jewelry later. But first, you need to upgrade your bow. At 270 dps, it's getting weak for your level.
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Last edited by Panini_aux_olives#1967 on Jan 25, 2016, 12:09:24 PM
you Say that the build can play as Shadow.. but the trees dont get to the shadow start.. so i will have to sacrice some ranger skills points? the start of them are evasion and life... so.. :/ wath to do?
another thing in cruel i didnt take atack speed.. i take atack damage is good anyway? w8 for u answer want to regret my tree
@Panini_aux_olives: Thank you for the advice. You are right, I'm really locked by my resistances (lightning is not even capped). I will try to find a cheap 5L high life tripple resist and probably wear Atziri's Step (if I'm able to cap my res with jewelry). Only then I'll consider upgrading my bow (thought I don't feel any lack of damage; everything just dies instantly). And yeah, I'll keep Taste of Hate.
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Drizlo wrote:
you Say that the build can play as Shadow.. but the trees dont get to the shadow start.. so i will have to sacrice some ranger skills points? the start of them are evasion and life... so.. :/ wath to do?
you go with the physical route, your remove a bit of damage and movement speed in ranger area: link. Alternative: keep the damage node but remove the life nodes from start (which is worse imho).
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another thing in cruel i didnt take atack speed.. i take atack damage is good anyway? w8 for u answer want to regret my tree
It's not a big deal.
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anton2k4 wrote:


i'm using the augmented version of the build seeing as my regen was only at a measly 90hp per second and i felt that the instant leech from vaal pact more than makes up for the loss of regen. currently sitting at 21k TS with hatred and HoI up (HoI linked to COH and AM cause automation FTW), reaching 32k with frenzy and power charges up. i'm running a puncture trap for single target at the moment since i love the idea of hit and run tactics. (drop 3 traps, whittle away with TS while boss walks to its impending doom) currently at 380 crit multi with 60% base crit, hitting 70% with 3 power charges up.

had a bad experience with a phys reflect map recently though. currently have 40% eva, 40 dodge, 30 spell dodge so some reflect damage still gets to me and firing into a mob and critting can leave me at less than 1k life in 1 second. guess i need to get arrow dancing for it.
The augmented build already prescribes arrow dancing. Yes you need it, you also want a Lightning Coil.

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